Bill, The Automat 3 uses the feeler rollers to index the counter. WTF did you get the idea about arrows on the film backing? Jerry wamyers@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi guys-- > > I have been following the discussion of shutter cock and film advance with > interest, as I have what may be a related problem with my Automat 3: After > the first exposure on a new roll, I cannot advance the film till I have > released the shutter a second time (I cover the lens to avoid double > exposing the first frame). From frame 2 to frame 12 all works as it should > (and the shots come out fine). I cannot tell without experimentation (I > will now sacrifice a roll of film) whether this is due to a malfunction or > my ignorance about exactly how far to advance the film when loading. I > bought the camera last summer, did not get good instructions from the > seller, and have dealt with this problem (intermittantly) ever since. To > eliminate one variable: exactly where should the arrow on the film backing > end up before closing the back of the camera? Perhaps the problem is my not > advancing far enough? > > Thanks > > Bill Myers > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list