Interesting: because of this discussion I just checked ebay to see what kind of prices were current and ebay has gone down hard All the best Larry Cuffe On Saturday, November 21, 2009, at 04:34PM, "Thor Legvold" <tlegvold@xxxxxxx> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >Excellent point. Obviously what it is you want to accomplish weighs >heavily on the choise of equipment. > >I shoot mostly portraits, city/landscapes and tourist photos (I travel >a lot, or used to). > >You won't find my name on Google, I'm not a working professional >photographer. I've worked as one years ago, on a free lance basis for >customers in Norway, as well as for an opposition newspaper in the >former Yugoslavia that no longer exists. Photography has always been a >hobby for me, and I've had a tendency in all of my hobbies to pursue >them to professional levels. > >These days I use a 6008 and tripod when I go out with the intent to >create images. When I travel I almost always bring along the 2.8D I >bought a few years ago, and I like (and use) it more and more as time >goes on. It's a great little camera. Light, small, unobtrusive, and >with wonderfully big negs :-). For walking to work or around town or >just to take snaps of family and friends I use a Contax IIa, sometimes >the Bessa, sometimes a Nikon FM3a. It depends what plans we have and >what I know about the day ahead of me. I try to plan accordingly. > >The blurry Contax shots I haven't published, haven't posted. Haven't >even bothered scanning all of them. I can't imagine what a Leica could >do for my work either, but am curious what it could do for my >photography. > >I'm not Leica bashing, but rather incredulous after reading a little >and checking it out more, and seeing the prices - which I can >understand in one way, and the Leicaphiles going on about their magic >cameras - which is harder for me to understand. As a sometime >musician, hearing about people colecting Leicas (and never using them) >is like hearing about great old vintage Fenders bought up and put >behind glass. It's a shame, and it puts great instruments out of reach >of people who might have created art with them. > >I prefer your picture (guy with holes in pants and brassy Leica) to >the one I find quite a few places on the net and in reality (like the >retired doctor in NY a few weeks back), but am not sure which one is >accurate or most common. Perhaps both. > >Akhils explination makes perfect sense, so there's no problem there. > >Anyway, thanks for the talk. > >Thor > >p.s. If you're getting $10k to shoot a wedding, well, wow... But from >what I've heard and read, US weddings (expense wise) have grown out of >all bounds the last 10-20 years. > > >On 21. nov.. 2009, at 21.50, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> >> Its "specific areas" which I noticed was missing from the picture. >> Rollei vs. Leica to shoot what? >> City scapes? >> Street photography? >> Portraits on the sidewalk? >> Landscapes? >> Tourist pictures? >> A discussion of tools with no mention for the jobs they are intended >> to be >> used for gets me nowhere. >> To be able to see some of a persons work is also a big help when >> they are >> talking about this or that camera they'd get use out of. A URL. I >> google >> imaged Thor was not able to find anything. No blurry Contax shots. >> Nothing. >> So I cant image what a Leica could to for his work. >> Also the price point and Leica glass varies tremendously on how old >> and used >> it is. They go back to the 1930's. You can pick your price point. >> I don't picture a millionaire using a Leica on the street I picture >> a guy >> with holes in his pants using brassy gear who bought it used a long >> time ago >> and it not likely to sell it any time soon if ever. >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> >> >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list