I should be more careful making such statements, I'm still new at this. I should have said the roll that was processed in Rodinal seems smoother to me than the rolls I've done in Ilfotec HC. I understand that as a difference in grain. This only gets more interesting with every new variable. Ilfotec HC has been very good, long storage life, easy dilutions. E. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ERoustom" <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:05 AM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Planar 2.8 coverage > > > > Thanks! This was my first roll in Rodinal, and since > > Ilford's spec sheet gave one time, and Rodinal gave > > another, I split the difference, so maybe not enough > > time. and maybe back to 5 seconds every 10 minutes. I use > > a stainless steel tank, agitating for the first 10 > > seconds of each minute. Ilftoec HC never gave me this > > problem, but the grain is much much finer with Rodinal. > > > > I wonder though about how tightly the camera is holding > > the film. This is the same roll that gave me the strange > > light leak across frames. > > > > Thanks again all. > > > > Elias > > > Curious about the grain. I've never used Ilfotec HC, > which is similar to Kodak HC-110 but would expect it to have > somewhat finer grain than Rodinal. I've used Rodinal mostly > for sheet film and have never had any problems with it but I > generally use finer grain developers in tanks. I think the > main thing with tanks is to have a long enough development > time to average out irregularities in agitation. However, if > there are surge effects in the tank they are likely to be > the same even if the time is increased. The most common > surge marks in inversion type tanks are increased > development at the edges of the film due to turbulent flow > in the interstices of the reels, and sprocket hole marks due > to turbulent flow through these holes, also causing a > localized increase in development. > If you find the problem _is_ due to surging I can only > suggest using a different type of reel or rotating the tank > along with inverting it. I was taught this trick long ago > and its become a habit. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list