It is good to know that all Rollei Planars are the same; the question regarding Summicrons vs. Planars is asked in the light that both produce wonderfully detailed black and white negatives with information across the whole negative; including micro details and good shadow and highlight information. I am not a camera collector I am a photographer and like to use the zone system, I would like to ask your opinion on what the best standard lens on any format any one has used, in order to not get pedantic keep in mind that this is a Question of opinion, The 3.5 F I owned was stunningly sharp yet exquisitely detailed with a soft tonal range. Marvin. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Emilio Perea Sent: 26 May 2005 03:52 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT - Bokken (was: Question on operatingand on screen for Rollei GX and Hood) On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 12:05:24AM -0400, Ardeshir Mehta wrote: > On 21-May-05, at 11:38 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > > My dictionaries are printed on paper and bound. I used them > > regularly when I lived in Japan. > > [QUOTE] > Bokken > > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. > ... (I hate coming in several days too late, but that can't be helped now.) Reading this was like hearing the old "Who's on first?" routine... The source of confusion in this case does not seem to be Jerry's ignorance of the Japanese definition of "Bokken", but what appears to be Ardie's ignorance of the English definition of "singlestick". Maybe we can get Marc to sponsor a Rollei Singlestick Tournament. The Planars vs Xenotars? Freelists vs Yahoos? From the Encyclopaedia Britannica article (part dealing with the sport rather than the equipment): "Blows on any part of the body above the waist were allowed, but all except those aimed at the head were employed only to gain openings, as each bout was decided only by a broken head -- i.e., a cut on the head that drew blood." Sounds like a natural for some of this crew! --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list