On Monday, 24 August, 2009, at 04:44PM, "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >I haven't seen a non-digital camera here in Europe for years. I don't think they are extinct least of ways on my ramblings through paris Ronchamp for a Corbusier church, and selected parts of Switzerland, litchenstein and Austria I certainly saw some films cameras still in play. Nikon, Canon, Olympus and Pentax seemed to be the main contenders. Thats apart from what I was carrying, which was (because my Rollie has hung up on me again shutter jammed, film wont move forward...) A Nikon F2, F5 and a D40, A super Ikonta and Zeis Nettar as well as an OM2 with a 21mm lens. All the best Larry Cuffe The last >really good photographer I know who was still using film changed a >couple of years ago. >I know people who still use 5x4 (4x5 in USA:-)) for landscape. One of >them even uses a fairly old digital camera as his light meter. He did >some experiments comparing the digital ands its exposure histogram to >film and subsequently used the digital pictures and the histogram of >them to evaluate his film exposure. He is a master photographer and I >thought this was very clever, it works well, and -much- more flexible >than a single cell light meter. >He can also use the jpgs from the digital on his web site to advertise >the originals. >Frank > >On 23 Aug, 2009, at 17:05, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote: > >> I think digital photography has to do with the issue, external flash >> reads could be interesting even if you have a very complete digital >> camera, perhaps Europeans still use more analog equipments than >> Americans. >> >> Carlos >> >> --- El dom 23-ago-09, Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: >> >> >>> Digital F is easy to find, but the >>> other seems unavailable. Maybe >>> North Americans use flash more often than Europeans? >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote: >>> >>>> The Gossen "Sixtomat Digital" is called "Luna Pro >>> Digital" in the >>>> States and the version to take flash light reads too >>> is called "Luna >>>> Pro Digital F" >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Gossen-GO4022-Luna-Pro-Digital-Light/dp/B0000AG939 >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> --- El dom 23-ago-09, Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> De: Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Meter Testing >>>>> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Fecha: domingo, 23 de agosto de 2009, 11:52 am >>>>> Looks like a great meter - not >>>>> available from any of the on-line merchants where >>> I would >>>>> expect to find it (in the U.S.). >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 23, 2009, at 5:00 AM, Niels H. S. Nielsen >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:15 AM, >>>>> Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> <snip> The question with new >>>>> is whether I would miss the needle, it's great to >>> wave >>>>> meter up and down and see how far the needle moves >>> between >>>>> highlight and shadow. <snip> >>>>> The Gossen Sixtomat digitial is >>> an >>>>> compact inexpensive option with the ability to >>> make a >>>>> continous reading and show the aperture range of >>> a >>>>> subject. I think the meter has another name in >>> the >>>>> US. >>>>> http://www.gossen-photo.de/english/foto_produkte.html?foto_sixtodigi..html,picts/navi_foto_sub_01_sixtodigi.gif >>>>> cheers >>>>> Niels >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Cocina >>>> >>>> Encontra las mejores recetas con Yahoo! 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