[rollei_list] Re: Identify Rolleiflex model?

  • From: John Wild <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:28:05 +0100

Carlos, I had not heard about the shutters before, that is very interesting.

I guessed that the letter designation 'jumped' because the 2.8 and 3.5
features were added first to the 2.8 and 'trialed' then the 3.5 would be
improved to 'catch up'.

John


On 21/09/2012 17:23, "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 2012/9/21 John Wild <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> ......the cameras went 3.5A, 3.5B, 3.5C jumping to 3.5F with the 3.5E2
>> alongside. The 2.8 series went 2.8A, 2.8B, 2.8C, 2.8D, 2.8E and 2.8F with
>> the E2 and E3.
>> 
>> The ŒA¹ designations have been Œkicked¹ about on these pages before, Carlos
>> is better qualified than me to comment in more detail.
> 
> Hello John:
>                   After the WWII, the "automat" feature became a well
> known improvement for the 6x6 Rolleiflex and F&H decided to eliminate
> the "Automat" term from the commercial name for these cameras (as CZ
> eliminated the red "T" from Rollei lenses when lens coating use became
> common for lenses) and then they manufactured a model called
> "Rolleiflex 3.5" simply, it was also known like "Rolleiflex X" because
> it had X sync for the flash, but since the models often had
> improvements, they started to use the letter that was part of the
> factory internal code for the model to identify it commercially and
> then you have the 3.5A or "M-X", the 3.5B or "MX-EV" up to the 3.5C;
> Rollei users in the States mainly perceived that the 3.5C was close to
> the 2.8E and had almost nothing to do with the 2.8C  and then the 3.5C
> became 3.5E, Rollei learnt the market perception and called "F" the
> 3.5 model that would be almost identical regarding the projected
> "2.8F", both cameras couldn't be introduced together because the
> Rolleiflex body had no room for the complex Differential Compur
> shutter 0 size necessary for the 2.8 lens, there was only room for the
> Differential Compur shutter 00 size used for the 3.5F first version,
> this issue was solved when Rollei engineers and technicians developed
> the little"Kegelrad differential" that allowed to use the regular
> Compur shutters for the 2.8F and 3.5F. The Rolleiflex T and
> Rollei-Magic were 3.5 models out of the regular 6x6 Rolleiflex 3.5 top
> models line.
> 
> As Marc explained previously, when Rollei introduced the 2.8A it was
> the first 6x6 Rolleiflex model and it was the only Rolleiflex 6x6 2.8
> in the market, and then it was known and it was called "Rolleiflex
> 2.8" simply, however when Rollei introduced the Rolleiflex 2.8B, it
> was necessary to add the "A" to the first model, this letter was
> already in the factory internal code  from the beginning, from the 2.8
> A was a prototype, but it was commercially used  after the 2.8B
> introduction.
> 
> Carlos
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