[rollei_list] Eschewing digital there is one bright spot of hope

  • From: Mark Kronquist <mak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:41:26 -0700

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Only digital camera in the place is a old D1 I found for them to shoot for 
ebay...great wet lab...if you choose to eschew digital Jake and crew are with 
you
On Jul 10, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Don Williams wrote:

> At 07:14 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
>> Well, I did pick up a Canon EOS Rebel Ti1 500 or whatever it is, with a 
>> simple 18mm to 55mm zoom.  Thanks to those on this List and to those on the 
>> IDCC, I managed to locate Fotodix and to score an M42 adapter and the proper 
>> lens hood.  So far, so good.
>> 
>> Several problems.
>> 
>> First, the camera is so damnably complicated that it will take me 25 years 
>> to learn all of its foibles.  I dumped my last modern Canon -- a film EOS 
>> 10s -- in part because I had to carry the manual about when using it.  This 
>> camera is even more complex and I just do not see how anyone could ever use 
>> it save in full automatic mode.  It is hugely complex and, like the film 
>> 10s, not the least bit intuitive. (I rather enjoy taking a Contax II and a 
>> roll of XP2 and just shooting pictures -- but learning film is so very much 
>> easier than learning digital.)  I am 60 and not at all certain that I wish 
>> to spend the rest of my life learning about Mode 32, Menu 9, and the like.  
>> Photography ought to be simple:  a)  insert film  b) insert the lens  c)  
>> take pictures.
>> 
>> Second, I have no means of downloading the pictures easily.  While Canon 
>> claims their software works on Windows XP, it gags on my computer and will 
>> not work.  And the card reader also fails to respond.  We did download the 
>> first set of pictures to my wife's laptop and she e-mailed me some pictures, 
>> but there must be a more decent workaround short of taking the card to 
>> WalMart and having them transfer them to a CD-Rom.  This camera takes an HD 
>> SD card or somesuch, and that seems part of the problem.
> 
> I have about a half dozen adapters, some dating from the HP 98/100/200 LX 
> days. [PCMCIA]  Never had an interface problem.
> 
> For digital I never use the camera vendor software, just windows explorer and 
> whatever combination of adapters that work to make the interface.
> 
> Only one suggestion, when transferring images to a computer, be sure to set 
> the chip, whatever it is, to write-protect and if you are using windows, 
> check the little "safe to remove" box on the bottom right of the screen 
> before you remove it..  As it turns out, my console dates from the time where 
> an external adapter is required.  Been using the same one for 10 years, 
> handles about 5-6 types of devices.  My laptop, being born during this 
> century, takes about 6 devices in native mode.
> 
> Actually I generally use a USB cable and treat the camera as another drive 
> and use windows explorer to do the file copy.
> 
>> Oy, Vey, my children!  I mourn the days of chemical film.  I am not a happy 
>> camper.
> 
> Yes, digital cameras have many options, but far less than your chemical, 
> camera, and film options.  The difference is that with a digital camera you 
> have access to all options at one instant, but with film you usually deal 
> with options serially.  I do find that with digital the best approach is to 
> follow the book, test each option, and just remember the ones of interest to 
> you- same as working with film.
> 
> For some perspective, imagine you walk up to a store with every type of film 
> and format, all available cameras and lenses, all enlargers, all chemicals 
> ever compounded, etc.  You have never seen 95% of them.  Now take a picture!
> 
> 
>> Marc
>> 
>> 
>> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
>> 
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