Hey There To All ROC Members, I have been pretty inactive for about a year and a half now. I hope to get back into the swing of things soon. I am not in a position to be at a lot of launches at this time but would like to be a productive member of the ROC community. Are there tasks / jobs that do behind the scenes? I run an accounting / consulting company and could do work in that area bookkeeping / tax returns (assuming ROC files some sort of not for profit return). I have can volunteer in the Orange County area to help with youth groups of rocket workshops. I also hope to be at more launches in the coming year and will definitely volunteer for range duties when I attend launches. If there are any behind the scenes tasks, let me know. ROC is a great club and I appreciate the work done by all who volunteer. Mike Michael Lesnick Axiom Healthcare Group 18627 Brookhurst Street #341 Fountain Valley, CA 92708 714-323-5968 Cell 714-594-5720 Office 714-656-0535 Fax MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory Lyzenga Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:41 PM To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Suggestions for ROC and youth groups It's good to see a spirited discussion going on regarding the future of the club. It means that people care, and I'm all for that! As the president of the club (at least for a little while longer), I figured it might be a good idea for me to speak up just a little, lest anyone out there think the board is disengaged from this issue or is rigidly fixed on some particular agenda. We think it is quite important that our members understand what issues the BOD is actively discussing, debating and thinking about. While we don't necessarily agree on every detail, the BOD collectively thinks it would be unwise to change any major operating characteristics of the club without careful deliberation, ample feedback and plenty of advance notice of any changes. That alone limits the scope of changes we can implement as soon as this coming October. It takes at least a few months for any major changes to occur, given that we only have the chance to talk and interact as a board a couple times a month. However in light of that fact, we can outline some basic principles that we think have served the club well and we will strive to follow. The ROC BOD is not considering fundamental changes to our club's founding principle of supporting LPR, MPR and HPR activities equally (whatever "equally means!). For many of us, LPR has served as the gateway to high power activities, and the intermediate MPR level is a crucial training ground for those flyers of all ages who are increasing the power of their flights. Now what the BOD *IS* considering is how we can effectively handle large launches in which the preponderance of participants are not experienced in rocketry. Our first consideration always has to be safety, and with limited volunteer resources we have to make sure that the demand for our launches is proportionately matched to the available help. This discussion is definitely not about scouts versus other groups, or about LPR versus HPR, or even about ROCtober versus regular launches. It distracts the discussion away from constructive dialog to frame it in terms of "us versus them" type conflicts, and we don't as a board consider it productive to engage in divisive either-or debates. So let's keep the good ideas coming and we'll all try to come down on the side of being constructive. And it helps to remember that the BOD usually can't turn on a dime... it's a big old Saturn V we're trying to steer and it takes a while after you gimbal those engines to see a change in course. Thanks for your understanding and ideas! Greg Lyzenga ROC President - NAR #13295 / Tripoli #12088