[roc-chat] Re: Lucerne access concern

  • From: Mike & Nancy Kramer <kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:57:37 -0700

Couple of years back, I did a project on El Mirage Lake bed where we got permits to use the lakebed for commercial activities, we ended up getting a filming permit, lots cheaper than a UAV testing permit, we just had to 'film the UAV'. As part of the deal, we we not able to keep the public off of the lakebed but we were able to keep them a safe distance away from what we were doing and keep them from our shooting.


We were able to keep anyone else from getting a permit for the same time as we were using the lakebed. Cadillac wanted to film a commercial same days, the BLM told them they cold not because we already had a permit.

So,
Public - allowed with restrictions
Group that would require a permit - not allowed

YMMV

Mike Kramer




On 3/22/2014 4:35 PM, David Erbas-White wrote:
I just went out to check the condition of the lakebed for the SCRA section and TARC teams for a launch tomorrow (just to double-check), and had a bit of a shock. A film company was filming out there, and claimed that they had the right to use the entire lakebed area and the public was not allowed entry to any part of it. They will not be there tomorrow, but I've never heard of one group being able to prevent other groups from using the lakebed -- this may be a concern for future 'lone ranger' or TARC launches, IF it is legitimate (it might be that the security folks were just 'claiming' that they had the right, without any actual authority to do so).

Is the ROC board (or anyone else) aware of this every happening? Is it even legal? Is there the possibility of conflict with any of our launches? If it is legal, does anyone know how individuals may be able to find out before driving all the way out for a 'lone ranger' launch, or for TARC launches during the winter months?

I'd appreciate any feedback...

David Erbas-White



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