Money, money money! Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:55 PM To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [realmusicians] Re: [midi-mag] a song for you guys Yeah, it's amazing to listen to these groups for years with them sounding so tight and smooth, only to find out it was nothing but a constant battle off stage. makes you wonder how they could even do it. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:24 AM Subject: [realmusicians] Re: [midi-mag] a song for you guys > We read it, it's great. > > At 02:16 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: >>Yup. If you're using the web to download books it's: >>DB-Felder, Don-Heaven and Hell- My Life in the Eagles, >>1974-2001-DB67408.zip >> >>Tom >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >>>Is that available from nls? >>>At 12:52 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: >>>>Yeah, I didn't think of that. You do have a kind of Henly voice. But at >>>>least you don't have his attitude. I just read: Heaven and Hell, My Life >>>>in the Eagles, by Don Felder. It's amazing they stayed together as long >>>>as they did. It sure was an interesting read. >>>> >>>>Yeah, I think the key to the SM7B minimizing sibilance is the wind >>>>screens as well as the fact that the grill makes it impossible to kiss >>>>the capsule. >>>> >>>>Tom >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Yeh, but you sure got to roll off that low end for vocals, so the beta >>>>>58 does that already and I like the midrange on that thing for my >>>>>voice, which has that Don Henly harshness, and the beta softens that a >>>>>bit for me without being muddy. >>>>> >>>>>but I like the way the sm7b handles the sibalant frequencies so you >>>>>don't hardly have to d s. >>>>> >>>>>It's that wind screen they use that does it, they claim. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>At 11:48 AM 4/7/2010, you wrote: >>>>>>Yeah, I have an SM7B and a stack of super clean pre's, including an >>>>>>AEA TRP, the ribbon pre. Although I've been playing around with it and >>>>>>settled on the FocusRite Voicemaster pro because it gives me a pretty >>>>>>much done signal going in, compressed, EQed, and a dash of tube >>>>>>emulation thrown in for good measure. It certainly has a nice big full >>>>>>sound. I can see why it's popular with broadcasters. Heck, I think it >>>>>>would be a respectable mic to use on a kick drum or bass amp as well. >>>>>> >>>>>>Tom >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" >>>>>><cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:48 AM >>>>>>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: [midi-mag] a song for you guys >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Well, the sm7b is gonna be bigger sounding, and be more like a >>>>>>>condenser in it's response, at the expense of not having as hot an >>>>>>>out-put but big and smooth and >>>>>>>full sounding it sureley is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>One of your ribbon mic pres would work nicely with it if you ever got >>>>>>>one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But it is an expensive mic, so if you don't need one or want one, not >>>>>>>an impulse buy 'grin'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But if you need to make quiet recordings in a room not perfect, it's >>>>>>>your baby. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>At 03:34 PM 4/6/2010, you wrote: >>>>>>>>Oh, okay. I was just curious if there was any real big difference, >>>>>>>>or, you just liked the beta more on your voice, etc. Guess I can't >>>>>>>>find an excuse to buy one. Heh! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" >>>>>>>><cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I was just lazy and grabbed the beta 58. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>One thing I like about that mic is that it doesn't need to be >>>>>>>>>rolled off on the low end at all, it just generally sounds good for >>>>>>>>>a basic vocal, and I put a little shimmer on the high end. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I still love the 7b though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>At 12:18 PM 4/6/2010, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>Sounds awesome as usual, Chris. Everything's nice and clean and >>>>>>>>>>yeah, that old guitar sure has a nice sparkle to it. Nah, you >>>>>>>>>>don't sound like an old hick when you talk. We're getting there, >>>>>>>>>>but we're not quite there yet. Ha! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>One question. I'm just curious why you chose the beta 58 over the >>>>>>>>>>SM7B you rave about so much? I have the 7B but not the 58 so I >>>>>>>>>>can't compare them to hear the different vibe. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" >>>>>>>>>><cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:35 AM >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: [midi-mag] a song for you guys >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hey thanks man, >>>>>>>>>>>well that's a good thing, because I sound like an old hick when I >>>>>>>>>>>talk 'grin'. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>At 07:24 AM 4/6/2010, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>Hay, that was nice. Very good sound and everything. I really >>>>>>>>>>>>enjoy it. >>>>>>>>>>>>I think your voice sounds different when you sing. <smile> >>>>>>>>>>>>Later. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Nektarios. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" >>>>>>>>>>>><cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>To: <midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:26 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: [midi-mag] a song for you guys >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I did this for my wife, she loves gentle love balads and this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John Denver tune is one of her favorites. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>This is one of my first recordings with sonar 8.5.2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I love simple acoustic folk music uncomplicated and clean >>>>>>>>>>>>>sometimes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>and for you guys who like this sort of thing enjoy, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I didn't use antares, or any really high tech glitz on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>thing, >>>>>>>>>>>>>just a little comp and eq and a couple of dynamic microphones, >>>>>>>>>>>>>all >>>>>>>>>>>>>tracked at the same time, one mic audix i5 on guitar, beta 58 >>>>>>>>>>>>>on mouth. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Guitar mic was on the hot-spot of the guitar near the bridge, >>>>>>>>>>>>>my old >>>>>>>>>>>>>beat up acoustic I've had since high-school, old and dingged >>>>>>>>>>>>>up like >>>>>>>>>>>>>yours truly but still singing 'grin'. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I love her best worn out fret board and dodgy machine heads and >>>>>>>>>>>>>all. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Then I put the bass down and piano, which is true pianos that >>>>>>>>>>>>>came with sonar. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bass came from steinberg hypersonic2. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>All the comp and mastering plugs are sonar native ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>www.affordablestudioservices.com/cb/annie.zip >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WARNING!!! 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