energy to, hahahaha. Depending on how much you have, I guess. Peace Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Touch-screen gadgets alienate blind > Shoveling is great - it just takes a lot of motivation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of bigdaddylou63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:59 AM > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Touch-screen gadgets alienate blind > > this one Ginny, was forwarded to the A C B list I'm on so I just forwarded > it. No magic wand, even though I wish I had one, hahahahaha, just like > many > > of us I'm sure. > > Insomnia? I feel your pain. Why, if you don't mind me asking. Anything > troubling you? Sometimes the stresses in our lives can cause this you > know. > > How funny, I just sent you an e mail talking about mine, hahahahahaha. > What > > timing. > > It is working on 6 in the morning out here in the great Northwest or let > me > say the Midwest, but I do live in Northern Indiana which is right off Lake > Michigan. I can hear the snow plows working and have been for a little > time > > now. We're expecting like 6 inches of snow after all is said and done. > Do > I like it? NO!!!!!, that's in capital letters, just so you know, > hahahahaha. > > Just the thought of going outside and having to shovel is depressing, not > to > > mention having to get dressed for it. > > I'm sure, you've found out if you've been surfing why the internet is > called > > the "world wide web", hahahahahaha. There is just way to much out there, > wow. No wonder it could be bad and good. > > Hope you feel better and are able to get some sleep, why don't you take > like > > some Tylenol or drink some tea? This might help relax you. Do you take > anything for it or have you had it before? Just curious. > > > Peace > Luis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "V Nork" <ginisd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:26 AM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Touch-screen gadgets alienate blind > > >> Dear Luis, I am up late again, insomnia for the first time really in my >> life, and am looking forward to reading this. What a nice surprise on >> this >> night especially.No hurry or anything, but what was the process you went >> through to find this article? I recently took a Library science class, >> and >> often use Proquest, a library database you may have used. If not, I can >> tell you about it some time if you like. So, with this article, did you >> go >> to one of the websites or links here in this E mail and go to the search >> box and type in the word blin, maybe with an asterisk to give you all >> the >> forms of the word? Or what? Or did you just get out your magic wand? >> Anyway, thanks for this, Su Amiga Virginia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bigdaddylou63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:06 AM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Touch-screen gadgets alienate blind >> >> >>>> Touch-screen gadgets alienate blind >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Tech >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> NEW YORK (Reuters) - >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The craze for touch-screen gadgets, sparked by Apple Inc's popular >>>> iPhone, >>>> is raising worries that a whole generation of consumer electronics >>>> >>>> will be out of the reach of the blind. >>>> >>>> Motown icon Stevie Wonder and other advocates came to the world's >>>> biggest >>>> gadget fest, the annual Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this >>>> week, >>>> to >>>> convince >>>> >>>> vendors to consider the needs of the blind. >>>> >>>> Wonder told a CES event that his wishlist included a car he could >>>> drive -- >>>> which he acknowledged was probably "a ways away" -- and a Sirius XM >>>> satellite >>>> >>>> radio he could operate. >>>> >>>> "If you can take those few steps further, you can give us the >>>> excitement, >>>> the pleasure and the freedom of being a part of it," said the famed >>>> musician. >>>> >>>> Wonder said some companies had managed to make their products more >>>> accessible to the blind, sometimes without even meaning to. He cited an >>>> iPod >>>> music player >>>> >>>> and Research in Motion's BlackBerry as gadgets he likes to use. >>>> >>>> Advocates argue that if product designers take into account blind >>>> needs, >>>> they would make electronics that are easier to use for the sighted as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> The good news is that manufacturers do not need to put large sums of >>>> money >>>> into making products accessible, nor would they have to forsake >>>> innovation, >>>> said >>>> >>>> Chris Danielsen, a spokesman for the National Federation For The Blind. >>>> >>>> "We don't want to hold up technological progress," he said. "What we're >>>> saying is, think about the interface and set it up in such a way that >>>> it's >>>> simple >>>> >>>> .... The simpler you make the user interface of a product, it's going >>>> to >>>> reach more people sighted or blind." >>>> >>>> TOUCH SCREENS >>>> >>>> With the popularity of touch screens, once simple products such as >>>> televisions and stereos have become difficult for blind people to use >>>> as >>>> they often require >>>> >>>> navigation of multiple menus that need to be seen to be used >>>> effectively. >>>> >>>> "That's an increasing problem with new digital devices. It's easy to >>>> add >>>> feature after feature that's buried under menu after submenu," said >>>> Mike >>>> Starling, >>>> >>>> chief technology officer of National Public Radio, which is working on >>>> accessible options. >>>> >>>> Manufacturers have been putting touch screens in everything from >>>> calculators >>>> and watches to computers and music players. >>>> >>>> Sendero Group President Mike May, who is blind, joked, "Can I ski 60 >>>> miles >>>> an hour downhill? Yes. Use a flat panel microwave? No." Sendero makes >>>> GPS >>>> navigational >>>> >>>> devices that have an audio output for the blind. >>>> >>>> There are also screen readers that give an audio reading of a phone's >>>> menu. >>>> But Anne Taylor, director of access technologies at the National >>>> Federation >>>> >>>> for the Blind, says they do not yet help her to use a touch-screen >>>> phone. >>>> >>>> She said the ability to use a device without needing to look at it >>>> could >>>> help sighted people who are driving or older people whose eyesight is >>>> starting >>>> >>>> to deteriorate. >>>> >>>> While blind users can buy screen-reading software for $300 upward, it >>>> tends >>>> to only work on certain phones, often the most expensive smartphones. >>>> Sendero >>>> >>>> said accessible technology is often expensive, and about 70 percent of >>>> the >>>> U.S. blind population is unemployed. >>>> >>>> Taylor is using CES as a forum to present vendors a set of suggestions >>>> for >>>> product design that she sees benefiting both sighted and blind >>>> consumers. >>>> >>>> For example, manufacturers could include an easy-to-use start-over >>>> button, >>>> different sounds for different menus, and controls with good tactile >>>> feedback. >>>> >>>> PROGRESS >>>> >>>> Ahead of the show, there were some signs that vendors, while unlikely >>>> to >>>> give up on the touch-screen trend, may be more ready to consider >>>> consumers >>>> with >>>> >>>> disabilities. >>>> >>>> Developers at Google Inc are working on ways to make touch-screen >>>> phones, >>>> including those based on its own Android mobile software, usable for >>>> blind >>>> people. >>>> >>>> National Public Radio announced a special radio receiver technology and >>>> software that would connect a digital radio to a dynamic Braille >>>> generating >>>> device. >>>> >>>> It has also created special digital radio channels for readings of the >>>> day's >>>> newspapers. >>>> >>>> Dice Electronics has made a prototype radio that incorporates the NPR >>>> technology, and NPR's Starling hopes this will become a commercial >>>> product >>>> in 2009. >>>> >>>> Starling has also set up meetings at CES with other manufacturers in >>>> the >>>> hope they will include NPR's technology. He said responses to requests >>>> for >>>> information, >>>> >>>> which often go unheeded, are much more active this year. >>>> >>>> Some manufacturers could use their production facilities to make such >>>> devices, as demand weakens for more mainstream products in the economic >>>> downturn, >>>> >>>> he said. >>>> >>>> "I think in general there may be a view that accessibility may be >>>> becoming >>>> the new green," said Starling. >>>> >>>> (For more news from the Consumer Electronics Show, please click on >>>> http://www.reuters.com/news/topics/CES and visit the Reuters MediaFile >>>> blog >>>> at http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile) >>>> >>>> (Reporting by Sinead Carew; editing by Richard Chang) >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes