On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 00:20, grwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: <long snip, including comments from Jurgen, with which I agree> > The point is to get more of the riders CG towards the drive > wheel. Agreed, though a more general way of putting it is that the front wheel will carry most of the weight, if it is nearer than the rear wheel to the CoG of the bike+rider. The absolute distances don't matter so much, for this purpose. Assume a bike 3 metres long, with the rider 1 metre behind the front wheel, and 2 metres ahead of the rear wheel. It will have many other problems, but the weight distribution will be 2:1 front:rear. > Inclining the seat will move the center forward. That depends entirely on where the seat pivots for the purpose of this design exercise. If you merely lower the front edge of the seat, the rider's CoG may merely move down, or even back. Unless the seat is moved further from the rear wheel or closer to the front wheel, tilting it is unlikely to improve matters. > but also using a smaller front wheel allows the wheel to be > closer to the rider Yes, and this is critical. > and inclines the entire bike and shortens the wheel base. Inclining the bike doesn't contribute anything to resolving the traction problem. Wherever the CoG is, the weight will act vertically through it. Shortening the wheel base may be desirable for other reasons, but it only affects traction via the front:rear weight distribution. ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================