When evaluating film manufacturers' speed claims, remember that they compete with each other. One of the factors of comparison is film speed, just as auto manufacturers compete on engine horsepower, size, and gasoline economy. You should no more expect that you will achieve a claimed film speed, than you will achieve a claimed gasoline consumption rate. On occasion it might happen, but that is not the norm. Len Eselson ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.