----- Original Message ----- From: "shannon stoney" <sstoney@xxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: [pure-silver] printing Kodak's C-41 "black and white" film >I experimented in August with shooting Kodak's "black and >white" film > that can be processed at a one hour lab. Some of my > friends love > this film. But, when I went to make the contact sheets, > they seemed > to require a lot more exposure time and the results looked > rather > flat. Has anybody printed with this film, and if so, what > are your > feelings about it? > > --shannon Kodak has a couple of films, which one are you using? All of their chromogenic B&W films have an orange filter to simulate the color masking built into color films. The reason is to allow printing neutral images on color printing paper. The main difference between consumer and pro film is the amount of this mask. In consumer film the mask is stronger to yield neutral images without changing the settings used for color on one-hour machines. The masking in both films tends to upset the color balance of the variable contrast filters and to lengthen the exposure time when used with conventional B&W variable contrast paper. The use of a panchromatic paper, like Kodak Panalure, will shorten the exposures but this is a graded paper and is expensive. About all you can do is to experiment with the VC filters on your parcitular enlarger to find which gives desirable contrast and increase the exposure time to whatever is required. Ilford's chromogenic B&W film does not have a mask and is intended to print on B&W paper. It produces a color cast on color paper unless substantial equalizing filtering is used but it is not intended primarily for that. On the conventional materials it is designed for it is superior, at least in that it doesn't require handling differently than silver based B&W film. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.