On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Ron Klein wrote: > Has anyone had experience with Mr.Suzukis' DS-10 or DS-12 particularly wi= th > regard to stability of stock solutions? Any other feedback on these > developers would be appreciated. I use DS-10 and DS-12 regularly and have sensitometric tests with several films on my website <http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/>. DS-12 is quite stable, I use a concentrated stock solution (10x the amounts of chemicals in 1l of water). This keeps well, I use 25ml of this solution and 225ml water (=3D 1+9) for one 120/135-36 equivalent. A test with fresh solution and some DS-12 left in a partially filled bottle for three month (+Protectan) showed some loss of activity with the old solution, the test film (APX100) with the old solution got a C.I. of 0.54 compared to the strip in fresh solution with 0.63. The shadow densities were identical, the older solution lost some density in the lights (but not much, the negs would have been completely usable). DS-10 is an real excellent developer for Acros, T-Max, TX400 and Delta. Unfortunately, not every film is useful in this developer, APX100 doesn't work at all, at least with my chemicals. I can't test the pH of my solutions, it is possible that my DS-10 is very low in pH and APX doesn't like this. DS-10 is my standard developer for Delta 100 and 400, 9:30 with 24 deg. and rotation. However, after several weeks DS-10 goes down and looses film speed and contrast. I keep my stock for no longer than 4 weeks and mix fresh solution for each larger batch of film. I have several air tight glass containers (in Germany called "Weithalsflaschen", wide neck bottles) and put all dry chemicals for one batch into each of them. The powder goes into solution quite easily, I put 900ml distilled water at 30 deg. on my magnetic stirrer, add the content of one glass to it and come back after 5-10min. After adding the TEA the developer is ready to use. This stuff is the best fine grain developer I know and I really have no problems with sharpness at all, perfect for portraiture with 6x6 and Delta 400. Gr=FC=DFe aus Hohenlohe, =09Martin Jangowski | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: Martin@xxxxxxxxxxxx| | Netzwerke und Multimedia | | Voice: +49 7946/940790 Fax: +49 7946/940791 | | Snail Mail: Von-Olnhausen Str. 4 74626 Bretzfeld Germany | ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.