[pure-silver] Re: Rodinal in Montreal

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:31:58 -0700


----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin F. Knotzke" <jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Rodinal in Montreal



<quote who=Richard Knoppow, date=[24/04/2006 19:13]/>

The following is a formula for a combination toner made of commercial toners. It is similar in results to Kodak Polytoner but is not the same.

Water                                 500.0 ml

KBT                                    80.0 ml

KRST                                   20.0 ml

Sodium Carbonate, monohydrated      40.0 grams

Water to make                        1.0 liter


Hmm, 30 minutes, is way too long for me to wait..

But this formula is much quicker.. I might give it a try.

   Thanks Richard,

   J

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Justin F. Knotzke
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The above tones very quickly, too quickly for reliable partial toning. I suspect that reducing the amount of Carbonate would slow it down but have not experimented with that.
KBT at 100F will tone in 2 to 5 minutes and is excellent for partial toning because it does not split tone. I don't think the above does either but its hard to tell. The combination formula works best on warm tone paper. On cold tone paper it shifts to a slightly purple color. On warm tone papers it produces reddish brown. Kodak published two additional formulas using a combination of KBT and KRST. These were published before they began to make Polytoner. These formulas use Kodalk rather than Carbonate. Since Kodalk is lower in pH it might result in slower toning but the instructions for the other formulas suggest they tone pretty fast at room temperature. The main difference between the two Kodak formulas is the ratio of the two toners. The ratio given above is not fixed but I don't know what effect changing it has on image color.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
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