And Claudio, sometimes I end up following the check list to put it all away hearing the lyrics of Robert Plant & Alison Krauss "Gone Gone Gone". Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Bonavolta Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:10 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Refrigerate film? I do mostly 35mm and, although I normally transfer the films from the freezer to the fridge and then to the bag, it happens I had to use a film directly from the freezer. I don't recall to have had problems doing so but I must say that I didn't tried to absolutely have problems either ... :-) I suppose 35mm is less prone to condensation as the cartridge is kept with a low-level of humidity inside its hermetic plastic box since its manufacturing and, once in the camera, most of the film has plenty of time to warm-up inside the cartridge before coming out and being exposed. For sheet film, I must say the time I need to load the backs, go on stage, decide what and how to shoot, install the tripod, make all camera planes adjustments, meter the exposure, re-think half an hour if this scene is *really* worth the cost of a sheet and, finally, follow the longer-than-a-plane check-list carefully ... Well, you know, we're not talking of condensation on film but film aging here ... :-) Claudio Bonavolta http://www.bonavolta.ch ----- Message d'origine ----- De: "Nicholas O. Lindan" <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:39:26 -0500 Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: Refrigerate film? À: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >"Clifford Brown" <clifford@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> What about the possibility of importing condensation into the camera body >> via a *frozen* film cassette? Could this happen? > >Could space aliens be the cause? Anything _can_ happen. >But does it? > >> No personal experience; > >That's just it: I am looking for anyone with personal >experience, a photograph showing the effect and who can >provide instructions so anyone can make it happen for >themselves. > >So far there is no proof that it is even _possible_, >let alone happens in real life. Without proof, it >is all hearsay. > >My personal experience is it doesn't happen. For the past >few years I have been going through hoops trying to get >condensation effects: huffing on the film and the camera to >get as much moisture in there short of putting the whole mess >under the kitchen tap; going as quickly as I can from freezer >to camera; doing it on hot sticky summer days. > >The results: Zilch, nada, nicht, nothing ... > >You can't prove a negative, you can only try to prove >a positive and fail. > >Try it for yourself. It is the only true way to become >a believer. > >== >Nicholas O. Lindan >Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC >Cleveland, Ohio 44121 > >=========================================================================== ================================== >To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ====================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.