Interestingly I have just been having discussion with Maco/ Hans O Mahn on this topic (they are European distributors for Oriental). They tell me that the newest Oriental 'VC FB 11' does not Lith print. The previous one did of course. I have requested samples to test. It would be worth trying after bleaching though - some papers hold hidden secrets here. Tim -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Klein Sent: 13 December 2004 15:35 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Orietal Seagal I have recently had difficulty in obtaining any significant lith effect with oriental seagal paper. I used both Kodak Super RT and the Maco product. Tim Rudman reports excellent lith effect with this paper. Any similar experience? ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.