I've developed my first few rolls of 35mm fim in Pyro (WD2D+). I'm using the Formulary's liquid kit, and their TF-4 Fixer, with distilled water. I have a few questions; I notice the stain tends to 'recede' a bit after the film dries. I assume this is normal? My first couple of rolls (one was Tri-X, one was Efke100) were very thin and flat. I followed the suggested dev. times and temp. Shadows were almost empty. I assume I will have to adjust my film speed downward. Is speed-loss normal with pyro? My last pyro roll (APX100) was exposed another 1/3 stop over my normal film speed (ASA80). I souped the film for 20% longer than suggested, and upped the temp to 74F (from 70F). The film still looks somewhat flatter, and thinner, than 'normal' negs, though printable. Are pyro negs just inherently a little flat and thin? Not really a question - what a color change the dev goes thru, from mixing to after-dev! Starts out clear, but with an orange-ish cast. Looks like coffee after the development is complete. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.