Kodak Ektalure was very good, but we must use what we have. I suppose that as glass negatives dissapeared or bromoil papers went unavailable many people turned sad, because maybe it was not the best system, but it was their system and it was going away and lost. I feel we are living the same, and now is not the end of a paper but the end of almost the whole analogic system. Sure I feel very sad. In magazines of last year, when I read the end of agfa I also read in the same magazine that nikon was not doing more analogic cameras other than 2 profesionals, then I also read in an interview to a kodak man that films were just sure for 5 years but then maybe they will stop production, the only films that could survive were the black and white, but they didn't seem very interested in keeping them as well. However it was said that since b&w is easier to produce eastern europe brands can do it, but that color is condemded to dissapear if they stop production. If analog colour film dissapears is no big dissaster for me (but I feel sad anyway), I just care for black and white, because of home processing. It looks that analog photography will be another alternative process in not much time. BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: I haven't used a Kodak paper for decades. They were good for my commercial work in the 80s but, without a doubt, there are MUCH better fine art black and white papers out there...Oriental Seagull for one. Even Ansel stopped using Kodak in favor of Oriental paper as mentioned in one of his books. Yes, I am always sad to see something that was a part of history disappearing but I seem to notice that Oriental, Seagull, and Kentmere are going strong. I am not ready to morn black and white paper for a LONG time. As Mark Twain said, "As you can see, the rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated!" CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Rosen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:55 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: More Kodak Buildings Demolished > I got an e-mail from Dave Valvo this afternoon with pictures of > the aftermath of demolishion of Building No.50 at Kodak Park. This, > and a next-door building there, also demolished, were used for > manufacturing B&W printing paper. It is very sad to see this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- If the Kodak plant area in Rochester is the location involved, the buildings date back to the turn of the 20th century. They should have been replaced 50 years ago. Most factory type buildings can convert to any product in just a few months. What is important is where the machinery is kept. If the paper-handling and coating equipment is sold off or junked, that would be tragic. In any case, many papers for digital printing come in about the same types of stock that silver technology uses. And the quality papers aren't cheap. The last time I visited the Rochester complex I was almost run down by their train. External pipe ran chemicals from building to building. Kodak had women who must have been employed for decades checking the tension and leaders in 35mm film cassettes. It was a strictly manual operation. I attended one of the meetings of the Kodak Camera Club, which consisted of Kodak employees mostly. They had no problem finding expert speakers. The meeting was well-attended in the Kodak auditorium at 343 State Street. And everyone was enthusiastic. Bob R ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. __________ NOD32 2533 (20070916) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. --------------------------------- Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!.