[pure-silver] Re: More Kodak Buildings Demolished

  • From: Fernando Pastor Diaz <alfikiper@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:58:12 +0200 (CEST)

Kodak Ektalure was very good, but we must use what we have. I suppose that as 
glass negatives dissapeared or bromoil papers went unavailable many people 
turned sad, because maybe it was not the best system, but it was their system 
and it was going away and lost. I feel we are living the same, and now is not 
the end of a paper but the end of almost the whole analogic system. Sure I feel 
very sad. In magazines of last year, when I read the end of agfa I also read in 
the same magazine that nikon was not doing more analogic cameras other than 2 
profesionals, then I also read in an interview to a kodak man that films were 
just sure for 5 years but then maybe they will stop production, the only films 
that could survive were the black and white, but they didn't seem very 
interested in keeping them as well. However it was said that since b&w is 
easier to produce eastern europe brands can do it, but that color is condemded 
to dissapear if they stop production.
   
  If analog colour film dissapears is no big dissaster for me (but I feel sad 
anyway), I just care for black and white, because of home processing.
   It looks that analog photography will be another alternative process in not 
much time.
  

BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
  I haven't used a Kodak paper for decades. They were good for my commercial
work in the 80s but, without a doubt, there are MUCH better fine art black
and white papers out there...Oriental Seagull for one. Even Ansel stopped
using Kodak in favor of Oriental paper as mentioned in one of his books. 
Yes, I am always sad to see something that was a part of history
disappearing but I seem to notice that Oriental, Seagull, and Kentmere are
going strong. I am not ready to morn black and white paper for a LONG time.

As Mark Twain said, "As you can see, the rumors of my demise are greatly
exaggerated!" 
CHEERS!
BOB

-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Rosen
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:55 PM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: More Kodak Buildings Demolished

> I got an e-mail from Dave Valvo this afternoon with pictures of
> the aftermath of demolishion of Building No.50 at Kodak Park. This,
> and a next-door building there, also demolished, were used for
> manufacturing B&W printing paper. It is very sad to see this.
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If the Kodak plant area in Rochester is the location involved, the buildings
date back to the turn of the 20th century. They should have been replaced 50
years ago. Most factory type buildings can convert to any product in just a
few months. What is important is where the machinery is kept. If the
paper-handling and coating equipment is sold off or junked, that would be
tragic. In any case, many papers for digital printing come in about the same
types of stock that silver technology uses. And the quality papers aren't
cheap.

The last time I visited the Rochester complex I was almost run down by their
train. External pipe ran chemicals from building to building. Kodak had
women who must have been employed for decades checking the tension and
leaders in 35mm film cassettes. It was a strictly manual operation.

I attended one of the meetings of the Kodak Camera Club, which consisted of
Kodak employees mostly. They had no problem finding expert speakers. The
meeting was well-attended in the Kodak auditorium at 343 State Street. And
everyone was enthusiastic.

Bob R

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