Maybe, we can talk the managers of this list into limited-size jpg files. Let's say 16 or 32k? Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht On 12/31/04 4:28 PM, "J.R. Stewart" <jrstewart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ralph has a good point. Communication, mentoring, and coaching comes with a > set of rules and following them usually benefits everyone involved. But I'll > tell you, I'll tolerate a 1000 liters of bickering if I can glean 10 mls of > useful information. This list is a fantastic resource (having grown up in > the "non-information" age). I'm really glad it survived the change of venue > and that most of the old gang came along (haven't seen anything of OhBecky , > however... wonder how her darkroom is coming along?). > > If there's one thing I'd like to see on the list that I don't, it's more > discussion about esthetics of photographs. An example is the short thread > some days back about the beauty of the old style photos... some of which had > no deep blacks at all, yet still are able to move people. I know, > subjectivity is hard to describe (that's why it's subjective, huh?). > > I'd like to see examples when someone refers to "xyz gives me "long scale" > and what that means from an esthetic (or even an objective) viewpoint, or > how pyro behaves on a TMAX negative (or any negative)--got an H&D curve to > show it? , or what it means when Triple XXX developer "dumps" the low values > (again... got a curve or a photo?). I've not seen many jpg posts on this > list (probably prohibited?), but even a hyperlink would be a great value to > me as a learner. > > What ideas do others have to improve Pure-Silver for the coming year? > > J.R. Stewart > Leesburg, VA > > Happy New Year All!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DarkroomMagic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "PureSilverNew" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 8:28 AM > Subject: [pure-silver] It depends... > > >> Just an observation and a few thoughts for the new year... >> >> Sometimes, pure-silver newsgroup conversation (and others) happen similar >> to >> the following example: >> >> Q1: What do you recommend for 'XYZ'? >> A1: I recommend you do 'A' and 'B' but never 'C'. >> A2: It depends. If 'XYZ' is really 'XyZ', you can do 'C' without a >> problem. >> >> Besides Q1 being happy to have gotten detailed information, several other, >> not so beneficial, events can take place. >> >> 1. Q1 is confused and doesn't know what to do. >> 2. A2 feels good about himself, because he finally got his 2-cents in. >> 3. A1 is upset with A2, because he feels disputed and fires off another >> it-depends note, confusing Q1 even more. >> >> Option 1 is unfortunate, option 2 is missing the point and option 3 is >> just >> plain wrong. My thoughts on this are: >> >> 1. The one asking the question should do so with as much information as >> possible but without any hesitation to ask. We all have learned by >> watching, >> reading, trying and asking. >> 2. The one answering the question should do so in consideration of the >> root >> cause for the question. If someone asks for the time, don't tell him how >> to >> make a watch. >> 3. An addition to an already made statement is rarely meant as a personal >> attack, and if it is, ignore it. It often help people who answered the >> original question to learn something themselves. >> >> >> Photography is a fantastic hobby and this is a great forum (Thanks to Jim >> for keeping it alive). The combination of art, physics, optics chemistry, >> mathematics and others make it so exciting and invite people from very >> different backgrounds, education and experience to enter and communicate. >> However, in photography, everything depends on everything, and today's >> leading-edge science may only get you a pitiful shaking-of-the head >> tomorrow. Silver-based photographic science is mature but not rigid, still >> evolving but unfortunately slowed-down by the attention to digital issues. >> Today's decisions have to be based on today's knowledge. Tomorrow is >> another >> day, and I'll take the liberty to change my mind then. >> >> >> Now, go and have a great 2005 and remember... >> >> Make your images full of imagination and your paper rich in silver. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Ralph W. 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