[pure-silver] Re: It depends...

Maybe, we can talk the managers of this list into limited-size jpg files.
Let's say 16 or 32k?





Regards



Ralph W. Lambrecht




On 12/31/04 4:28 PM, "J.R. Stewart" <jrstewart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ralph has a good point. Communication, mentoring, and coaching comes with a
> set of rules and following them usually benefits everyone involved. But I'll
> tell you, I'll tolerate a 1000 liters of bickering if I can glean 10 mls of
> useful information. This list is a fantastic resource (having grown up in
> the "non-information" age). I'm  really glad it survived the change of venue
> and that most of the old gang came along (haven't seen anything of OhBecky ,
> however... wonder how her darkroom is coming along?).
> 
> If there's one thing I'd like to see on the list that I don't, it's more
> discussion about esthetics of photographs. An example is the short thread
> some days back about the beauty of the old style photos... some of which had
> no deep blacks at all, yet still are able to move people. I know,
> subjectivity is hard to describe (that's why it's subjective, huh?).
> 
> I'd like to see examples when someone refers to "xyz gives me "long scale"
> and what that means from an esthetic (or even an objective) viewpoint, or
> how pyro behaves on a TMAX negative (or any negative)--got an H&D curve to
> show it? , or what it means when Triple XXX developer "dumps" the low values
> (again... got a curve or a photo?). I've not seen many jpg posts on this
> list (probably prohibited?), but even a hyperlink would be a great value to
> me as a learner.
> 
> What ideas do others have to improve Pure-Silver for the coming year?
> 
> J.R. Stewart
> Leesburg, VA
> 
> Happy New Year All!!
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DarkroomMagic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "PureSilverNew" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 8:28 AM
> Subject: [pure-silver] It depends...
> 
> 
>> Just an observation and a few thoughts for the new year...
>> 
>> Sometimes, pure-silver newsgroup conversation (and others) happen similar
>> to
>> the following example:
>> 
>> Q1:  What do you recommend for 'XYZ'?
>> A1:  I recommend you do 'A' and 'B' but never 'C'.
>> A2:  It depends. If 'XYZ' is really 'XyZ', you can do 'C' without a
>> problem.
>> 
>> Besides Q1 being happy to have gotten detailed information, several other,
>> not so beneficial, events can take place.
>> 
>> 1. Q1 is confused and doesn't know what to do.
>> 2. A2 feels good about himself, because he finally got his 2-cents in.
>> 3. A1 is upset with A2, because he feels disputed and fires off another
>> it-depends note, confusing Q1 even more.
>> 
>> Option 1 is unfortunate, option 2 is missing the point and option 3 is
>> just
>> plain wrong. My thoughts on this are:
>> 
>> 1. The one asking the question should do so with as much information as
>> possible but without any hesitation to ask. We all have learned by
>> watching,
>> reading, trying and asking.
>> 2. The one answering the question should do so in consideration of the
>> root
>> cause for the question. If someone asks for the time, don't tell him how
>> to
>> make a watch.
>> 3. An addition to an already made statement is rarely meant as a personal
>> attack, and if it is, ignore it. It often help people who answered the
>> original question to learn something themselves.
>> 
>> 
>> Photography is a fantastic hobby and this is a great forum (Thanks to Jim
>> for keeping it alive). The combination of art, physics, optics chemistry,
>> mathematics and others make it so exciting and invite people from very
>> different backgrounds, education and experience to enter and communicate.
>> However, in photography, everything depends on everything, and today's
>> leading-edge science may only get you a pitiful shaking-of-the head
>> tomorrow. Silver-based photographic science is mature but not rigid, still
>> evolving but unfortunately slowed-down by the attention to digital issues.
>> Today's decisions have to be based on today's knowledge. Tomorrow is
>> another
>> day, and I'll take the liberty to change my mind then.
>> 
>> 
>> Now, go and have a great 2005 and remember...
>> 
>> Make your images full of imagination and your paper rich in silver.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph W. Lambrecht
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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