[pure-silver] Re: It depends...
- From: "J.R. Stewart" <jrstewart@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:28:03 -0500
Ralph has a good point. Communication, mentoring, and coaching comes with a
set of rules and following them usually benefits everyone involved. But I'll
tell you, I'll tolerate a 1000 liters of bickering if I can glean 10 mls of
useful information. This list is a fantastic resource (having grown up in
the "non-information" age). I'm really glad it survived the change of venue
and that most of the old gang came along (haven't seen anything of OhBecky ,
however... wonder how her darkroom is coming along?).
If there's one thing I'd like to see on the list that I don't, it's more
discussion about esthetics of photographs. An example is the short thread
some days back about the beauty of the old style photos... some of which had
no deep blacks at all, yet still are able to move people. I know,
subjectivity is hard to describe (that's why it's subjective, huh?).
I'd like to see examples when someone refers to "xyz gives me "long scale"
and what that means from an esthetic (or even an objective) viewpoint, or
how pyro behaves on a TMAX negative (or any negative)--got an H&D curve to
show it? , or what it means when Triple XXX developer "dumps" the low values
(again... got a curve or a photo?). I've not seen many jpg posts on this
list (probably prohibited?), but even a hyperlink would be a great value to
me as a learner.
What ideas do others have to improve Pure-Silver for the coming year?
J.R. Stewart
Leesburg, VA
Happy New Year All!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "DarkroomMagic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "PureSilverNew" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] It depends...
> Just an observation and a few thoughts for the new year...
>
> Sometimes, pure-silver newsgroup conversation (and others) happen similar
> to
> the following example:
>
> Q1: What do you recommend for 'XYZ'?
> A1: I recommend you do 'A' and 'B' but never 'C'.
> A2: It depends. If 'XYZ' is really 'XyZ', you can do 'C' without a
> problem.
>
> Besides Q1 being happy to have gotten detailed information, several other,
> not so beneficial, events can take place.
>
> 1. Q1 is confused and doesn't know what to do.
> 2. A2 feels good about himself, because he finally got his 2-cents in.
> 3. A1 is upset with A2, because he feels disputed and fires off another
> it-depends note, confusing Q1 even more.
>
> Option 1 is unfortunate, option 2 is missing the point and option 3 is
> just
> plain wrong. My thoughts on this are:
>
> 1. The one asking the question should do so with as much information as
> possible but without any hesitation to ask. We all have learned by
> watching,
> reading, trying and asking.
> 2. The one answering the question should do so in consideration of the
> root
> cause for the question. If someone asks for the time, don't tell him how
> to
> make a watch.
> 3. An addition to an already made statement is rarely meant as a personal
> attack, and if it is, ignore it. It often help people who answered the
> original question to learn something themselves.
>
>
> Photography is a fantastic hobby and this is a great forum (Thanks to Jim
> for keeping it alive). The combination of art, physics, optics chemistry,
> mathematics and others make it so exciting and invite people from very
> different backgrounds, education and experience to enter and communicate.
> However, in photography, everything depends on everything, and today's
> leading-edge science may only get you a pitiful shaking-of-the head
> tomorrow. Silver-based photographic science is mature but not rigid, still
> evolving but unfortunately slowed-down by the attention to digital issues.
> Today's decisions have to be based on today's knowledge. Tomorrow is
> another
> day, and I'll take the liberty to change my mind then.
>
>
> Now, go and have a great 2005 and remember...
>
> Make your images full of imagination and your paper rich in silver.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Ralph W. Lambrecht
>
>
>
>
>
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