[pure-silver] Re: "Green" Developer

  • From: "Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:27:49 +0100

There seem to be very strong reactions to this subject.

Are people getting more concerned about the environmentalists threatening analog photography than the continuously fading availability of their materials?

Anyway, I'm sure you have a few good points. People have a tendency to overdo things when trying to please political correctness. I don't know for certain what needs and what needs not to go to hazardous waste. I'm going with 'better safe than sorry'. However, in the end, it is not about money. It's nice if they pick it up for free, and I'm probably paying for it through taxes, but there is no price tag on a polluted lake, three-eyed fish or cancer-stricken relative. And one thing is for certain, polluted water often comes back to the ones who polluted it first.

All the best.



Regards



Ralph W. Lambrecht

http://www.darkroomagic.com


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On Nov 29, 2009, at 17:57, Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:

"Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Nicholas,
Are you really suggesting that it is better for the environment to dump my chemicals drown the drain and pollute the water supply, despite the fact that waste management picks it up for free?

No, I'm quite beyond that.  I've been a card-carrying registered
tree hugger since 1967, attended the first Earth Day conference
in the US in 1970(?), etc., etc..  I am not a stick-in-the-mud
or a Luddite, far from it.

It is a matter of priority and where money is best spent.

I am suggesting that the haz-mat facilities concentrate their
limited and valuable resources on detoxing what is truly hazardous, and not spend their time assuaging guilt by detoxifying the non- toxic. Compared to the piss and shit getting flushed down the toilet, developer - mineral salt and boiled tree bark extract is about what it amounts to - is like fresh rainwater.
If it were really poisonous - made from Methyl Mercury or some
such - I would be the first in line not just calling the haz-mat
truck but giving up photography all together.

In San Francisco we have a phenomena of people buying $35 carbon-
offset certificates and then go driving monster SUV's, claiming
that since they bought the certificate their SUV is now non- polluting. These people have simply purchased an indulgence:
permission to commit sin with the promise of avoiding Hell's fire.

And, Ralph, you have to know that nothing comes for free --
you are paying for that waste pickup with tax money.  It would
be better if haz-mat was charged separately and have it clearly
spelled out what _has_ to be treated, not leaving it up to whim.
The developer, if poisonous, should have a surcharge added to
it to pay for recycling and a mandatory requirement to recycle
should be prominently placed on the package. I believe the EU has such a policy regarding electronics and automobiles.

So, yes, I am suggesting that flushing used developer is _less
polluting_ than haz-mat disposal.  Haz-mat disposal creates
pollution by its very operation; is the pollution it creates
detoxing developer greater than the pollution of the developer
itself - I believe it is.


Nicholas O. Lindan
Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio 44121

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