I tried the internet H&W developer on Efke 25 and Techpan and got lots of pinholes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:56 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Gigabitfilm > Probably not low contrast enough. Low contrast developers like the = > Gigabit developer cannot produce a usable image with normal film. I = > assume the Clayton developer can. > > If you wish to experiment, here's a formula that purports to be the H&W = > developer. > > Solution 1 > > Distilled water (50=B0C) ................. 300 ml > Sodium sulfite (anhy) .................. 8.0 g=20 > Hydroquinone ........................... 1.2 g=20 > Sodium carbonate (anhy) ................ 30.0 g=20 > Phenidone .............................. 8.3 g=20 > > Solution 2 > > Distilled water (50=B0C) ................. 600 ml > Sodium sulfite (anhy) .................. 60.0 g=20 > Distilled water to make ................ 1.0 l=20 > > Method of Preparation > > Make up the two solutions. Add Solution 2 to Solution 1 and dilute to 1 = > liter. > Store the concentrate in several small, well sealed bottles. The = > concentrate should=20 > keep for about 6 months. > > Usage > > Dilute 1+15 with distilled water. Average development time is 11 - 15 = > minutes > at 20=B0C. Agitate continuously for the first minute and then for 5 = > seconds > every 3 minutes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = > [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of titrisol > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:45 AM > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Gigabitfilm > > > Would the Clayton Low Contrast developer work for this? > I believe this film could be great for Minox and sub-mini camera users > > --- "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Gigabit film is a microfilm (most likely made by Agfa). Their=20 > > developer is an extremely low contrast developer essential to tame the > > high > > contrast of the microfilm. There's nothing new about such a > > combination. In the 70's there was a company that sold such a > > combination under the name H&W Control. > >=20 > > While such combinations can yield virtually grainless prints with > > extreme detail there are some problems. =3D20 > >=20 > > 1) The contrast of the negatives, while lower than normal for=20 > > microfilm, is still higher than what is considered normal for=20 > > continuous tone > > negatives. This makes them difficult to print and is the most > > serious > > drawback. > >=20 > > 2) The film has little or no exposure latitude requiring exposures be > > bracketed. =3D20 > >=20 > > 3) Lens faults are emphasized because of the lack of grain in the > > negatives. In fact, unless you have a really high quality > > lens, your > > prints will appear less sharp than if you had used a > > conventional film > > such as Efke 25. > >=20 > > 4) The film and required developer are expensive. 35mm microfilm is=20 > > not perforated so the user is locked out of any alternative source > > of film. > > Gigafilm has the film perforated especially for their sales. > >=20 > > I have not tried this latest incarnation and have no inclination to do > > so after previous disappointments. Perhaps Gigabit has > > overcome the > > inherent problems. H&W went out a business after the initial > > flurry of > > interest waned because of basic dissatisfaction. > >=20 > > Jerry > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > > [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Emmanuel > > Schnetzler > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:52 AM > > To: PureSilver list > > Subject: [pure-silver] Gigabitfilm > >=20 > >=20 > > Hi all, > >=20 > > I was reading the Zeiss newsletter yesterday and they are talking=20 > > about the=3D3D > > Gigabitfilm: > > > http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B58B9/ContentsWWWIntern/17EF1FE449AD3F64C > > 125=3D3D > > 6F2C002B7DBA > > http://www.gigabitfilm.de/html/english/menu.htm (poorly designed > > website...) > >=20 > > Looks like it's been out for a while now (no 120 though,=20 > > unfortunatelly). A=3D3D pparently it was reviewed in the British B&W > > magazine, which I receive, but=3D3D I missed it. I'll have to > > look for it > > when I'm back home. > >=20 > > Does anyone know anything about it? 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