Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express

  • From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:06:57 -0400

My guess would be that they use cells to display the DataGridView's fields. The same problems we encountered using non absolute column size specifications for the TableLayoutPanel's cells is causing the problems reading the DataGridView. I don't have time to build a Test DataBase, set up a project and explore the DataGridView for accessibility techniques. A script written in JAWS or Windoweyes scripting language might make it accessible if programmers ever get time to develop them. I have had no luck using the functions of dropping tables on a form to auto generate the Navigation control with attendant DataGridView either. It worked some but I found it faster to just design and generate my own layouts and code to handle these things. Thus I have nothing that might help you with this. As with Form Layout this would be another good project for a team to analyze and develop scripts to make the DataGridView totally accessible but I sure do not have time for that and have only developed 1 jaws script in my life. A project to make Visual Studio and Microsoft Controls accessible would be a major Project. The folks who developed the free jaws scripts did a good job working around some of the fundemental problems like the Forms Editor and the Code Editor but there is still much to do with DataGridViews and some of the other Designers and Wizards. I'm pretty sure they have moved on to other things, they have to make a living. Some day a team may build some scripts and plug in modules that make Visual Studio better but I am guessing that would be a professional staff and they would be quite costly because of the scope of the project and the constant maintenance requirements. That's why I have not dug into it, I would have to sell the package for hundreds of dollars to pay for the time required to develop and maintain such a package on a full-time basis. Besides, the learning curve would be huge and my hair is already totally gray! So, document what you find, post solutions and that's about the best you can do.

Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


       Hi.
well, maybe play around with it a little bit.
do a simple application.
if you have a small database file in either sql or access format.
then add a data grid from the toolbox, and then use the database explorer,
add a new connection, and follow the wizard, and see what happens.
and see if window eyes works with that.
as you do not have jaws, you cannot really find out why it is not working or
reading.
cheers Marvin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


I have not used them much since they suck with Windoweyes but not dug into
them much.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:39 AM
Subject: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


Hi.
just did an example of adding a sql server database to a grid view control
in visual basic.dot net express 2008.
and using jaws 10 beta.
and when i set the database connection, and tested and all went fine,
found
the table to add.
gues what when i compile the application, jaws cannot read the records in
the data grid view, and it is totally blank.
so was wondering, any fix for that in the vs jaws scripts, or do i need to
install the latest version.
so has any one ran into how to read a data grid view in ms visual basic
.dot
net express 2008.
first time using a data grid view, and think it struggled to read in jaws
6.10 as well.
any thoughts.
cheers Marvin.


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