Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express

Marv:
I asked you not to just forward my messages. I ramble in them to make some things clear to you and others do not want to read a bunch of opinion. If you continue along this line of activity with no apparent reason for posting, I will stop communications with you on all levels. I do not want my name associated with wasting folks time and that is what this is. You posted this for some reason, I have no clue what that was, but you should have just asked a question based on whatever you wanted to know concerning tmy e-mail. You could have posted it, no problem, if you asked the guys about a specific item in the e-mail itself. This way what do you want someone to write back? I have no clue.
Rick USA
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


My guess would be that they use cells to display the DataGridView's fields.
The same problems we encountered using non absolute column size
specifications for the TableLayoutPanel's cells is causing the problems
reading the DataGridView. I don't have time to build a Test DataBase, set
up a project and explore the DataGridView for accessibility techniques.  A
script written in JAWS or Windoweyes scripting language might make it
accessible if programmers ever get time to develop them. I have had no luck
using the functions of dropping tables on a form to auto generate the
Navigation control with attendant DataGridView either. It worked some but I
found it faster to just design and generate my own layouts and code to
handle these things. Thus I have nothing that might help you with this. As
with Form Layout this would be another good project for a team to analyze
and develop scripts to make the DataGridView totally accessible but I sure
do not have time for that and have only developed 1 jaws script in my life. A project to make Visual Studio and Microsoft Controls accessible would be a major Project. The folks who developed the free jaws scripts did a good job
working around some of the fundemental problems like the Forms Editor and
the Code Editor but there is still much to do with DataGridViews and some of the other Designers and Wizards. I'm pretty sure they have moved on to other
things, they have to make a living. Some day a team may build some scripts
and plug in modules that make Visual Studio better but I am guessing that
would be a professional staff and they would be quite costly because of the scope of the project and the constant maintenance requirements. That's why I
have not dug into it, I would have to sell the package for hundreds of
dollars to pay for the time required to develop and maintain such a package on a full-time basis. Besides, the learning curve would be huge and my hair
is already totally gray! So, document what you find, post solutions and
that's about the best you can do.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


       Hi.
well, maybe play around with it a little bit.
do a simple application.
if you have a small database file in either sql or access format.
then add a data grid from the toolbox, and then use the database explorer,
add a new connection, and follow the wizard, and see what happens.
and see if window eyes works with that.
as you do not have jaws, you cannot really find out why it is not working
or
reading.
cheers Marvin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


I have not used them much since they suck with Windoweyes but not dug into
them much.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:39 AM
Subject: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


Hi.
just did an example of adding a sql server database to a grid view
control
in visual basic.dot net express 2008.
and using jaws 10 beta.
and when i set the database connection, and tested and all went fine,
found
the table to add.
gues what when i compile the application, jaws cannot read the records in
the data grid view, and it is totally blank.
so was wondering, any fix for that in the vs jaws scripts, or do i need
to
install the latest version.
so has any one ran into how to read a data grid view in ms visual basic
.dot
net express 2008.
first time using a data grid view, and think it struggled to read in jaws
6.10 as well.
any thoughts.
cheers Marvin.


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