Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express

        Hi.
okay, sorry about that.
okay, will keep to your rules.
and not send your e-mails, without asking a specific question in the future.
sorry about that.
just having a bad hair day.
do not want to burn my friendship with you and cann need all the help at the 
moment.
sorry about that.
will not do that again at all.
so sorry about that, private communcations, will stay with just us, and not 
to the list.
please accept my  honest sincere apology, stupid of me, did not think.
sorry about that.
please forgive me.
need your help at the moment.
so this is the first and last time will do that.
cheers Marvin.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


Marv:
I asked you not to just forward my messages. I ramble in them to make some
things clear to you and others do not want to read a bunch of opinion. If
you continue along this line of activity with no apparent reason for
posting, I will stop communications with you on all levels. I do not want my
name associated with wasting folks time and that is what this is.
You posted this for some reason, I have no clue what that was, but you
should have just asked a question based on whatever you wanted to know
concerning tmy e-mail.  You could have posted it, no problem, if you asked
the guys about a specific item in the e-mail itself. This way what do you
want someone to write back? I have no clue.
Rick USA
Sorry but trvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:17 AM
Subject: Fw: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express
>
>
> My guess would be that they use cells to display the DataGridView's
> fields.
> The same problems we encountered using non absolute column size
> specifications for the TableLayoutPanel's cells is causing the problems
> reading the DataGridView.  I don't have time to build a  Test DataBase,
> set
> up a project and explore the DataGridView for accessibility techniques.  A
> script written in JAWS or Windoweyes scripting language might make it
> accessible if programmers ever get time to develop them.  I have had no
> luck
> using the functions of dropping tables on a form to auto generate the
> Navigation control with attendant DataGridView either. It worked some but
> I
> found it faster to just design and generate my own layouts and code to
> handle these things. Thus I have nothing that might help you with this. As
> with Form Layout this would be another good project for a team to analyze
> and develop scripts to make the DataGridView totally accessible but I sure
> do not have time for that and have only developed 1 jaws script in my
> life.
> A project to make Visual Studio and Microsoft Controls accessible would be
> a
> major Project. The folks who developed the free jaws scripts did a good
> job
> working around some of the fundemental problems like the Forms Editor and
> the Code Editor but there is still much to do with DataGridViews and some
> of
> the other Designers and Wizards. I'm pretty sure they have moved on to
> other
> things, they have to make a living. Some day a team may build some scripts
> and plug in modules that make Visual Studio better but I am guessing that
> would be a professional staff and they would be quite costly because of
> the
> scope of the project and the constant maintenance requirements. That's why
> I
> have not dug into it, I would have to sell the package for hundreds of
> dollars to pay for the time required to develop and maintain such a
> package
> on a full-time basis.  Besides, the learning curve would be huge and my
> hair
> is already totally gray! So, document what you find, post solutions and
> that's about the best you can do.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:35 AM
> Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express
>
>
>>        Hi.
>> well, maybe play around with it a little bit.
>> do a simple application.
>> if you have a small database file in either sql or access format.
>> then add a data grid from the toolbox, and then use the database
>> explorer,
>> add a new connection, and follow the wizard, and see what happens.
>> and see if window eyes works with that.
>> as you do not have jaws, you cannot really find out why it is not working
>> or
>> reading.
>> cheers Marvin.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express
>>
>>
>> I have not used them much since they suck with Windoweyes but not dug
>> into
>> them much.
>> Rick USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:39 AM
>> Subject: data grid view tool in visual basic 2008 express
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> just did an example of adding a sql server database to a grid view
>>> control
>>> in visual basic.dot net express 2008.
>>> and using jaws 10 beta.
>>> and when i set the database connection, and tested and all went fine,
>>> found
>>> the table to add.
>>> gues what when i compile the application, jaws cannot read the records
>>> in
>>> the data grid view, and it is totally blank.
>>> so was wondering, any fix for that in the vs jaws scripts, or do i need
>>> to
>>> install the latest version.
>>> so has any one ran into how to read a data grid view in ms visual basic
>>> .dot
>>> net express 2008.
>>> first time using a data grid view, and think it struggled to read in
>>> jaws
>>> 6.10 as well.
>>> any thoughts.
>>> cheers Marvin.
>>>
>>>
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