RE: black berry accessibility

They have just introduced a new phone...It is to follow the 640 and is
the Samsung m300...I'm just waiting to get some information from friends
who have purchased this phone.  It seems to be a low cost option and,
from what I've heard, is a serviceable solution.

Jeff
 

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
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I don't know who they asked and yes I gave them feed back but have heard
nothing.

Ken 

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Subject: RE: black berry accessibility

Hi Ken,
Did they ask any potential users what functions they might need or did
they just take the paternalistic attitude that they knew what the users
would need? Did you give them any feedback?
Jim
James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810

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the world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret
Mead



 

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This argument will get you in trouble with devices.  The Samsung 640 A
is accessible out of the box Samsung made it so.  Yes I can use it but
they decide what I can use for example the way it reads names is awful.
The way you have to deal with contacts makes me pray for a rotary phone.
Its cute that you can get the description of the backgrounds like I
changed my background to a blue J flying over a field but I couldn't
email anyone because they figure I guess that the screen reader doesn't
need to work real good in all fields.  I spent more time on the phone
going up and down arrow because there was no read command for where you
are.  There didn't seem to be a separate way to tell what time it was or
to be able to speed up the speech or slow it down.

Its nice of the company to make this phone accessible but maybe there is
something to be said for us making screen readers so that it is more
than a toy we need tools.

Ken

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:15 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: black berry accessibility

Because I refuse to pay for yet another device and another software
package that provides "special" accessibility.  I'm perfectly willing to
buy a device that has accessibility built-in.  Frankly, I'm beginning to
be a bit annoyed with the argument that blindness is a small market.
Pratik Patel
Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech.
The City University of New York

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:01 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: black berry accessibility

you totallydidn't get my message. I am not asking for rim to bring
accessibility to us. because i believe the tools are already there.
why aren't we doing it for ourselves?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Steve Britt wrote:

Well, first we have to get the hang of that bitter blackberry taste,
lol.
No, seriously, folks, a big reason is probably that the blind and
disabled communities are seen as too small a market to be bothered with.
Start making noise, folks; as the old saying goes, it's the squeaky
wheel that gets the grease.

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