Andreas,this is not what it was represented to me as, kens wide open statement fits the way the access bridge was represented to me and a whole lot of other folks out here, where are you getting your info from?
elf "in waking a tiger, use a long, long, stick" - Mau See Tung.----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge Susie is actually correct (and so is Ken), this is used for swing, which is Java's GUI development platform. Stefik On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nope it is to make it so you can use Java applications with GUI's in Jaws and other screen readers. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -Kansas City, MO Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:37 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge What do you need the access bridge for? I had thought it was only for programming Java using swing. Susie Stanzel -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:21 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge Hi, I've never heard of the so called Java Access Client. The only technologies I'm aware of that provides accessibility feedback to the operating system (on Windows) are the Java Access Bridge and the We4J,or We4Java script system for Windows Eyes. Is there anything else available?My experience has been that the JAB functions the best with NVDA when compared to older JAWS versions (8.0). For more recent JAWS versions the situation might be different but people tend to recommend using Open Office with NVDA rather than even recent JAWS versions (for example). I would imagine the Java Accessibility API is pretty cool since you get excellent results on Linux with Open Office (RE accessibility), so there is no reason why the same could not be done on Windows. What *bridge* system / software is the glue on Linux? Is it I2A? The current problem with the JAB auto installer for Windows is trivial -- it only needs to be changed to make use of the new style "Program Files" directories for 32 and 64 bit respectively, hence an auto install is a simple process consisting of only these things: - copying the JAR files to the lib\ext\ directory of your active JRE, - renaming the jaccess-1_4.jar to jaccess.jar from that same lib\ext\ directory, - copying the accessibility.properties file to the lib\ directory of your active JRE,- copying the three DLL files to the System32, SysWOW64 and bin directories,- making sure your PATH system environment variable includes the System32, SysWOW64 and bin directory of your JRE Someone apt at install shields could perhaps re package the manual install files for the JAB into a new, updated auto installer for Win Vista and up? Regards, Kerneels On 12/14/2010 5:43 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote:Katherine, A quick google search for Java Access Client didn't reveal much. Have alink?Stefik On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bbt Bbt<bbt.sunbear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Kerneels, I am using Windows 64 bit. I don't doubt it runs fine in Windows 32 bit. Katherine, I know this is going to be a stupid question, but what is the Java access client you talked about ? I am not a Java person, so if thisiswhat someone needs to get Windows 64bit to run Java Access bridge, wheredoI get it ? I have another Windows 7 64bit machine to make work with NVDAandOpen office, so any hints to make the process easier, as you impliedwouldbe gratefully received, Thanks, Britta On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:Hi, Only saw this post now. I don't have a system environment vairiable named ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH pointing to the two jar files as describedbelow,but everything works fine on system (Win 7 32 bit). Where did you readaboutthis system env var? Is this the new CLASSPATH env var? The solution on my system was to follow the instructions but to alsocopythe 3 dll files to System32, SysWOW64 and the bin dir of the JRE you areusing (first JRE in PATH -- first java.exe the system comes across). See my previous post on this topic for more detail. On 12/2/2010 9:59 PM, Bbt Bbt wrote: Hi List, The instructions on the Oracle website don't seem complete to make Java Access Bridge run on Windows 7 64bit. Here's how I got Java AccessBridge towork. I hope this may help someone, as Ispent 2 days figuring this out. If you want to use NVDA and Open Office on Windows 7, these are the missing steps in the instructions : step 1 I tried to unzip the jaccess file in the manual zip file but gotanerror message. jaccess.jar file was therefore missing from the manual install.zip file for me. You have to get jaccess.jar by copying it fromaWindows XP machine, which is what I did or download it from someone whohasit. step 2 the instructions don't tell you that you need to put a system variable called ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH in with the paths to jaccess.jarandaccess-bridge.jar.In Windows 7 case that will be C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\jaccess.jar and C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\access-bridge.jar The other steps are at at www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/documentation/setup-139055.html navigate to the 64 bit windows manual install instructions on the page. regards, Britta -- Kerneels Roos Cell: +27 (0)82 309 1998 Skype: cornelis.roos"If one has the talent it pushes for utterance and torments one; it willout; and then one is out with it without questioning. And, look you,thereis nothing in this thing of learning out of books. Here, here and here (pointing to his ear, his head and his heart) is your school. 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