RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
- From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:58:29 -0500
It already is because of the JAC project.
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:13 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
It's a file sharing program. Really though, there are lots and lots of great
Java programs out there that can only be accessed, currently, with the Java
Access Bridge. I suspect, however, that JAB will be replaced within a year
or two by something third party.
Stefik
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO
<susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What is limewire?
>
> Susie
>
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> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:53 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>
> Ell one is limewire didn't work with out access bridge.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel,
> Susan - Kansas City, MO
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:27 AM
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> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>
> For example, what Java applications might I be wanting to use?
>
> Susie Stanzel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:12 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>
> Nope it is to make it so you can use Java applications with GUI's in
> Jaws and other screen readers.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel,
> Susan - Kansas City, MO
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:37 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>
> What do you need the access bridge for? I had thought it was only for
> programming Java using swing.
>
> Susie Stanzel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels
> Roos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:21 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>
> Hi,
>
> I've never heard of the so called Java Access Client. The only
> technologies I'm aware of that provides accessibility feedback to the
> operating system (on Windows) are the Java Access Bridge and the We4J,
> or We4Java script system for Windows Eyes. Is there anything else
available?
>
> My experience has been that the JAB functions the best with NVDA when
> compared to older JAWS versions (8.0). For more recent JAWS versions
> the situation might be different but people tend to recommend using
> Open Office with NVDA rather than even recent JAWS versions (for example).
>
> I would imagine the Java Accessibility API is pretty cool since you
> get excellent results on Linux with Open Office (RE accessibility), so
> there is no reason why the same could not be done on Windows. What
> *bridge* system / software is the glue on Linux? Is it I2A?
>
> The current problem with the JAB auto installer for Windows is trivial
> -- it only needs to be changed to make use of the new style "Program
> Files" directories for 32 and 64 bit respectively, hence an auto
> install is a simple process consisting of only these things:
> - copying the JAR files to the lib\ext\ directory of your active JRE,
> - renaming the jaccess-1_4.jar to jaccess.jar from that same lib\ext\
> directory,
> - copying the accessibility.properties file to the lib\ directory of
> your active JRE,
> - copying the three DLL files to the System32, SysWOW64 and bin
> directories,
> - making sure your PATH system environment variable includes the
> System32, SysWOW64 and bin directory of your JRE
>
> Someone apt at install shields could perhaps re package the manual
> install files for the JAB into a new, updated auto installer for Win
> Vista and up?
>
> Regards,
> Kerneels
>
> On 12/14/2010 5:43 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
>> Katherine,
>>
>> A quick google search for Java Access Client didn't reveal much. Have
>> a
> link?
>>
>> Stefik
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bbt Bbt<bbt.sunbear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Kerneels,
>>> I am using Windows 64 bit. I don't doubt it runs fine in Windows 32 bit.
>>> Katherine, I know this is going to be a stupid question, but what is
>>> the Java access client you talked about ? I am not a Java person, so
>>> if this
> is
>>> what someone needs to get Windows 64bit to run Java Access bridge,
>>> where
> do
>>> I get it ? I have another Windows 7 64bit machine to make work with
>>> NVDA
> and
>>> Open office, so any hints to make the process easier, as you implied
> would
>>> be gratefully received,
>>> Thanks,
>>> Britta
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Only saw this post now. I don't have a system environment
>>>> vairiable named ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH pointing to the two jar files
>>>> as described
> below,
>>>> but everything works fine on system (Win 7 32 bit). Where did you
>>>> read
> about
>>>> this system env var? Is this the new CLASSPATH env var?
>>>>
>>>> The solution on my system was to follow the instructions but to
>>>> also
> copy
>>>> the 3 dll files to System32, SysWOW64 and the bin dir of the JRE
>>>> you are using (first JRE in PATH -- first java.exe the system comes
across).
>>>>
>>>> See my previous post on this topic for more detail.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/2/2010 9:59 PM, Bbt Bbt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> The instructions on the Oracle website don't seem complete to make
>>>> Java Access Bridge run on Windows 7 64bit. Here's how I got Java
>>>> Access
> Bridge to
>>>> work. I hope this may help someone, as Ispent 2 days figuring this out.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to use NVDA and Open Office on Windows 7, these are the
>>>> missing steps in the instructions :
>>>>
>>>> step 1 I tried to unzip the jaccess file in the manual zip file but
>>>> got
> an
>>>> error message. jaccess.jar file was therefore missing from the
>>>> manual install.zip file for me. You have to get jaccess.jar by
>>>> copying it from
> a
>>>> Windows XP machine, which is what I did or download it from someone
>>>> who
> has
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> step 2 the instructions don't tell you that you need to put a
>>>> system variable called ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH in with the paths to
>>>> jaccess.jar
> and
>>>> access-bridge.jar.In Windows 7 case that will be C:\Program Files
>>>> (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\jaccess.jar and C:\Program Files
>>>> (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\access-bridge.jar
>>>> The other steps are at at
>>>> www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/documentation/setup-139055.html
>>>>
>>>> navigate to the 64 bit windows manual install instructions on the page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> Britta
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Skype: cornelis.roos
>>>>
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>>>> will out; and then one is out with it without questioning. And,
>>>> look you,
> there
>>>> is nothing in this thing of learning out of books. Here, here and
>>>> here (pointing to his ear, his head and his heart) is your school.
>>>> If
> everything
>>>> is right there, then take your pen and down with it; afterward ask
>>>> the opinion of a man who knows his business."
>>>>
>>>> (To a musically talented boy who asked Mozart how one might learn
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>
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