RE: Quality Assurance testing

  • From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:52:09 -0400

Chris, are the majority of these blind QA people employees of Freedom
Scientific, or working for companies that don't produce assistive
technologies?

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:14 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Quality Assurance testing

I know a lot of blind QA people.  Most testing actually does not  
involve the look and feel but, rather, exercising as many code paths  
that can be executed throughout the software.  If one has a screen  
reader they can do this kind of testing with their eyes closed.
On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:

> Having seen QA engineers work ... It is a heavily visual intensive  
> field.
>
> A great deal of QA involves visual aspects such as clicking on  
> appropriate
> areas, clicking on inappropriate areas, identifying color choices  
> that are
> not uniform throughout the application, asking why certain buttons are
> placed far to any given direction, complaining that a particular  
> button is
> inactive, even though it still shows on the screen, complaining  
> about lag of
> things being painted or drawn, explaining that a particular mouse  
> over isn't
> working, querying the developers about why the application uses such  
> a small
> font in the most used area of the screen, trying to do things that  
> might
> lock up the application, and so on.
>
> Also, automated QA, which is hopefully what this position would  
> entail,
> would involve using many tools that are themselves not accessible.
>
> Regarding accessibility ... I'm sure the various members of this  
> list can
> present multimillion dollar investment pieces of software that have  
> passed
> the most stringent of QA testing over multiple years, and are not even
> remotely accessible, much less usable by someone who is blind; for  
> example.
>
> I don't believe it's appropriate ever to tell someone not to do  
> something,
> if they want to do so, but by the same token, do realize that the  
> level of
> accessibility that is potentially possible in something like a  
> programming
> position is orders of magnitude more than that available in a QA  
> position.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James  
> Panes
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:39 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Quality Assurance testing
>
> bbie,
> The fact is that accessibility is part of QA. If the application is  
> not
> accessible, it fails.
>
> Go for it!
>
> Regards,
> James
>
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Everything is easy when you know how."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robbie Miller" <Robbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Blind Programming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:57 PM
> Subject: Quality Assurance testing
>
>
> Listers, I'm being offered the oppertunity to do Quality Assurance  
> testing
> (QA testing).
> Has anyone on this list done this kind of work before?
> Are the testing tools accessible?
> Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Robbie
> millerrobbie@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
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