Regarding the wording issue, an object is an instance of a class. I think it is acceptable to say either instantiate a class or instantiate an object, since the former is referring to what is being instantiated and the latter is referring to what has become instantiated. The latter is more common because one can then naturally refer to "the object" in subsequent sentences (the object rather than class is then the primary concern). Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind