Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of narration to a webpage itsself

  • From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:11:01 -0400

This is very interesting.

While I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience with HTML and the various 
scripting I am looking forward to looking at the source in detail when I get 
some time.

Very clever.

Dale leavens.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jacob Kruger 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of 
narration to a webpage itsself


  The voice is scansoft/realspeak daniel, but I did output/render the clips at 
quite a fast speaking rate to partly try drop their file size/running time, and 
I also dropped them to 24kbps (kilobits per second) to make all 10 of them that 
might get used amount to a total of 14kb, and the idea with the embedded flash 
object preloading them is that they get sort of cached at load time, instead of 
needing to be reloaded/refreshed each time they need to get played, etc., and 
it seems to me like they do each sort of play a bit quicker from their 2nd time 
onwards, but, yes, it's not 100% real time as such either way.

  I was also testing/trying out catching actual keystrokes via the 
document/webpage itsself for navigation etc., but you would then need to turn 
off things like jaws since it's catching of the navigational keystrokes for 
it's virtual buffer block the javascript DOM from noticing them as 
such...<smile>

  Stay well

  Jacob Kruger
  Blind Biker
  Skype: BlindZA
  '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dale Leavens 
    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:47 PM
    Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of 
narration to a webpage itsself


    Ah!

    That works more like it.

    Cool. I have a little trouble with the voice, a little difficult to hear 
particularly over Jaws but without Jaws it would probably be better.

    I am guessing that with dial-up the delay would be unacceptable but here it 
isn't much.

    Very clever.

    Dale Leavens.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jacob Kruger 
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:20 AM
      Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form 
of narration to a webpage itsself


      You will at this stage need to tab onto the buttons to in fact focus 
windows on them as such since just normally moving around in the screen reader 
virtual viewer doesn't really focus on them as far as javascript is concerned.

      If you are using jaws, and you route jaws to virtual cursor, it should 
also speak since I have also attached the playing of the relevant sound clips 
to the mouse cursor hover event, but anyway.

      Thanks for trying it out...<smile>

      Stay well

      Jacob Kruger
      Blind Biker
      Skype: BlindZA
      '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Dale Leavens 
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 3:06 PM
        Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form 
of narration to a webpage itsself


        Hi Jacob,

        When I press space on a location I do hear "knot" but moving around I 
get nothing else. If I space on a button I have already checked I hear sorry 
but I don't hear the state of the button when landing on it. I take it I should?

        The delay isn't bad, an interesting approach.

        Cool.

        Dale Leavens.


          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Jacob Kruger 
          To: ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Cc: Program-l 
          Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 2:41 AM
          Subject: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form 
of narration to a webpage itsself


          http://www.blindza.co.za/noughtsAndCrosses/

          There should now be a form of narration in that when you focus on one 
of the buttons, or even hover a mouse cursor over it, you should hear the 
narrative sound clips, etc.

          Issue is still something to do with preload timeframes etc., since 
even though the sound clips are pretty small/tiny, it still pauses a bit, but 
anyway...

          Stay well

          Jacob Kruger
          Blind Biker
          Skype: BlindZA
          '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'



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