This is very interesting. While I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience with HTML and the various scripting I am looking forward to looking at the source in detail when I get some time. Very clever. Dale leavens. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of narration to a webpage itsself The voice is scansoft/realspeak daniel, but I did output/render the clips at quite a fast speaking rate to partly try drop their file size/running time, and I also dropped them to 24kbps (kilobits per second) to make all 10 of them that might get used amount to a total of 14kb, and the idea with the embedded flash object preloading them is that they get sort of cached at load time, instead of needing to be reloaded/refreshed each time they need to get played, etc., and it seems to me like they do each sort of play a bit quicker from their 2nd time onwards, but, yes, it's not 100% real time as such either way. I was also testing/trying out catching actual keystrokes via the document/webpage itsself for navigation etc., but you would then need to turn off things like jaws since it's catching of the navigational keystrokes for it's virtual buffer block the javascript DOM from noticing them as such...<smile> Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Leavens To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of narration to a webpage itsself Ah! That works more like it. Cool. I have a little trouble with the voice, a little difficult to hear particularly over Jaws but without Jaws it would probably be better. I am guessing that with dial-up the delay would be unacceptable but here it isn't much. Very clever. Dale Leavens. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of narration to a webpage itsself You will at this stage need to tab onto the buttons to in fact focus windows on them as such since just normally moving around in the screen reader virtual viewer doesn't really focus on them as far as javascript is concerned. If you are using jaws, and you route jaws to virtual cursor, it should also speak since I have also attached the playing of the relevant sound clips to the mouse cursor hover event, but anyway. Thanks for trying it out...<smile> Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Leavens To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of narration to a webpage itsself Hi Jacob, When I press space on a location I do hear "knot" but moving around I get nothing else. If I space on a button I have already checked I hear sorry but I don't hear the state of the button when landing on it. I take it I should? The delay isn't bad, an interesting approach. Cool. Dale Leavens. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Program-l Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 2:41 AM Subject: Next version of noughtsAndCrosses - adding a (simple) form of narration to a webpage itsself http://www.blindza.co.za/noughtsAndCrosses/ There should now be a form of narration in that when you focus on one of the buttons, or even hover a mouse cursor over it, you should hear the narrative sound clips, etc. Issue is still something to do with preload timeframes etc., since even though the sound clips are pretty small/tiny, it still pauses a bit, but anyway... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5559 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5559 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com