RE: MAGic and COM
- From: "Nathaniel Schmidt" <nathanieljsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:58:26 +1100
Hi,
This might not be very useful, but if there is such an API for magic, would
it make things easier to include it in a package like accessible_output? I
suppose then it would be limited to python, but it would be simple to use
the magnification package, magnifier.magnify()? Of course I am writing this
knowing not much at all about magnification, just throwing the suggestion
out there.
Nathaniel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Haden Pike
> Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2011 7:09 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: MAGic and COM
>
> Maybe someone could write a cross-platform wrapper for the different
> magnifiers. Magtools, anyone?
>
> I'd do it myself, but it would have to wait until July at the
> earliest...
> Haden
>
> On 2/23/2011 1:59 PM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
> > James,
> >
> > For example, really quick, what we would REALLY like to do is have a
> > cross-platform bolding, highlighting, and magnification
> infrastructure
> > built into Sodbeans, so that users can magnify certain parts of the
> > tool and that the magnification flexibly adjusts to whatever the user
> > is doing (e.g., it follows you as you type, it focses when you hit a
> > menu). So far as we can tell, so far, however, it seems like we'll
> > need some kind of complicated wrapper API in C on each system, like
> > how we connect to screen readers right now (which works, but is
> > complicated).
> >
> > Anyway, maybe that puts our actual goal into context. Who knows,
> maybe
> > such an API already exists ...
> >
> > Stefik
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Andreas Stefik<stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> I'm not sure. We definitely know about, and have looked at SayTools.
> I
> >> forget, but I think it connects to JAWS, but not MAGic. I'll have to
> >> ask download and look again to make sure.
> >>
> >> If anything, what we really want to do is make magnification
> >> easier/better in Sodbeans, as we're finding that Sodbeans is working
> >> great for the kids that are non-sighted, but there are a number of
> >> ways that we think we need to improve for the visually impaired
> >> community.
> >>
> >> Another possible route we could take is to bypass MAGic altogether
> and
> >> roll our own magnification system, although I've heard that this is
> >> difficult. Hmm ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Stefik
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Homme,
> James<james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> Hi Stefik,
> >>> I wish that wasn't the case. Do you think that maybe SayTools or
> the other thing whose name I forget that Jamal created would help you
> at all?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas
> Stefik
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:08 AM
> >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: MAGic and COM
> >>>
> >>> Kind of sort of, and I appreciate it. This is basically what we do
> now
> >>> to connect to JAWS, but because there is basically no
> documentation, I
> >>> was hoping folks knew of a library out there that we could just
> >>> "connect" to, instead of figuring it all out again for this
> particular
> >>> set of DLLs.
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like we'll just have to slog through it, though.
> >>>
> >>> Stefik
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Homme,
> James<james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Stefik,
> >>>> This is just a guess. I'm thinking that Magic has a dll like JAWS
> does. It may even use a copy of that dll to talk. Are you also talking
> about enlargement? I'm also thinking that you can get a demo of Magic
> to find out what's in it. I know that it uses the same scripting
> language JAWS does. That language can do some stuff like get at other
> applications like IE, Word, Excel, and so on.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does any of this rambling help?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Homme,
> >>>> Usability Services,
> >>>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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> accessibility here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility
> advice
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas
> Stefik
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:56 PM
> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: MAGic and COM
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone have any experience connecting to Freedom scientific's
> MAGic,
> >>>> either through Java or COM? Any existing libraries out there to
> make
> >>>> this easy?
> >>>>
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