RE: Labelling icons
- From: "Rasmussen, Lloyd" <lras@xxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:48:10 -0500
Here is my understanding of the situation, which might not be totally correct:
This is a complex problem, especially if you are creating Java applications or
applets which will run on client computers, and not Java that serves up web
pages with which the users interact. In the case of Java running on the user's
computer, Java Access Bridge is needed to work with JAWS, and its support seems
to be diminishing over time. And this approach doesn't work at all with
Window-Eyes or System Access. I guess it works with NVDA. A Window-Eyes
approach is being worked on by one developer, who is not in good health, which
bypasses the access bridge and goes directly into the Java Accessibility
Framework. In my opinion, whoever works on this needs to do some research,
including the potential users of the software over time, and not believe
everything they hear until they test it.
Swat probably means the Standard Widgets Toolkit, which requires developers to
set things up so that the application uses GUI components specific to the
operating system on which the Java application will run. This approach, when
used in Windows, can produce programs having standard Windows controls, with no
need for an access bridge or linking into the Java Accessibility Framework. I
have heard that this approach is harder to code, although it is being
successfully used in some projects.
Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
Library of Congress 202-707-0535
http://www.loc.gov/nls
The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the
Library of Congress, NLS.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Rains
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Labelling icons
Hi Dave, At work, I am being asked to provide an accessibility wish list for a
new app that is being developed in java. One of the items I would like to put
on the list is that all graphics have some kind of textual label that can be
detected by JAWS. I don't do GUI programming so I wasn't sure if this was even
possible. I mostly write batch processes using perl and sql, so accessibility
of my own programs has not been an issue.
Thanks,
Fred
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From: "Dave" <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:26 AM
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Labelling icons
> The long answer is....it depends. Are you the application author? If
> so, then the answer is yes with varying amounts of effort depending on
> the type of application in question and the way in which the icon is
> represented.
>
> On 11/9/10, Fred Rains <fred58@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just wondering if there is a way to associate text with an icon
>> in a windows app similar to the way you would use an alt tag for an
>> image on a web page? I know you can label graphics using JAWS, but
>> that is not what I am asking. I guess what I am asking is is there
>> some kind of text property that can be added to a graphic that JAWS
>> can detect and speak automatically without using JAWS itself to label
>> the graphic? I don't need to know how to do it, I just want to know
>> if it is possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Fred
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