RE: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the language

  • From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:17:15 -0500

C++ is not low level by any stretch of the imagination. Please rethink these 
definitions.

Take care,
Sina



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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the 
language

Sina: I'm using a low-level language when I use c++. I expect Python and 
C# and Java to change. I do -not- expect a low level to change. It's low 
level afterall, what are you going to do? Cram a networking lib into the 
stl? Medications change (high level stuff), but what they build them off 
of doesn't in some cases. Look at antibiotics; it's been around forever. 
I suppose we should just toss it, it's not keepign up with pase.
On 3/9/2011 4:54 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Man, am I glad medicine sure doesn't work that way.
>
> But hey, *smile*, I'm sure doctors would love to not learn anything new, 
> *grin*.
>
> This is my personal advice, so take it or leave it.
>
> Every single language specific thing you learn is worth nothing more than the 
> fleeting bits used to represent the ascii characters
> explaining it to you. It is nothing more than syntactic garbage taking up 
> space in your head.. this has been true for the past 60
to
> 70 years, and it will be true for the next 70 years.
>
> That's why you should concentrate on learning concepts. Who cares if you can 
> write a binary tree in C++, if you can't also write
it,
> after only glancing at a reference manual for 10 minutes, in 25 other 
> languages.
>
> languages come and go, but concepts hardly change.
>
> So, you can either focus and obsess on the 2011 specific stuff, or the stuff 
> that has been true ever since Charles Babbage made
his
> difference engine over a century ago.
>
> And for you ladies out there, yes I'm aware that Ada Lovelace actually did 
> all the hard work, *grin*.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:48 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the 
> language
>
> Well, I'm glad the language has held still over the years.  I'm stil a
> novice in this language and I'm glad I don't have to be so worried
> about my book or tutorial containing obselete code as I would be for
> Java.  You can still take a c++ book written in 2004 or 2005 or
> something like that and use it to learn with.  Unless I'm mistaken,
> you can't do this with c# or Java.  I tried looking at Java a few
> months back and kept finding all these books that seemed to have a
> bunch of things you had to change with subsequent versions of Java.
> So, I for one am glad too much change hasn't come too quickly to it.
>
> Alex M
>
> On 3/9/11, Sina Bahram<sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> Fine, seriously belated, delayed, and not as useful as it would have been 10
>> years ago.
>>
>> Take car,e
>> Sina
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
>> Tyler
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:39 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
>> language
>>
>> But it wasn't. This is a long time in coming, but it doesn't make it
>> useless.
>> On 3/9/2011 3:41 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
>>> Wow, how many decades has it been?
>>>
>>> Oh well, better later than never, or something, I'm sure.
>>>
>>> Sorry, this is kind of useless.
>>>
>>> This should have been done in 1999.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Sina
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:17 PM
>>> To: programmingblind
>>> Subject: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
>>> language
>>>
>>> http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x%20-%20An%20Overview.html
>>>
>>> Fascinating video from the man himself.  Interesting to hear his
>>> voice.  For those who don't know, Bjarne Stroustrup is the man who
>>> invented c++.  The language was originally called c with classes but
>>> then, he changed the name to c++ because in c, the ++ means
>>> incremental addition.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>>
>>> Alex M
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>> Ty
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