Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the language

No, you are not. My distinction there was c++ vs java/python/c# which are at a higher level.

On 3/10/2011 7:37 AM, Alex Midence wrote:
I thought C was the low level language and c++ the high level
language.  OOP makes c++ higher level because of classes, templates
and such.  Am I mistaken?

Alex M

On 3/9/11, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
Sina: I'm using a low-level language when I use c++. I expect Python and
C# and Java to change. I do -not- expect a low level to change. It's low
level afterall, what are you going to do? Cram a networking lib into the
stl? Medications change (high level stuff), but what they build them off
of doesn't in some cases. Look at antibiotics; it's been around forever.
I suppose we should just toss it, it's not keepign up with pase.
On 3/9/2011 4:54 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
Man, am I glad medicine sure doesn't work that way.

But hey, *smile*, I'm sure doctors would love to not learn anything new,
*grin*.

This is my personal advice, so take it or leave it.

Every single language specific thing you learn is worth nothing more than
the fleeting bits used to represent the ascii characters
explaining it to you. It is nothing more than syntactic garbage taking up
space in your head.. this has been true for the past 60 to
70 years, and it will be true for the next 70 years.

That's why you should concentrate on learning concepts. Who cares if you
can write a binary tree in C++, if you can't also write it,
after only glancing at a reference manual for 10 minutes, in 25 other
languages.

languages come and go, but concepts hardly change.

So, you can either focus and obsess on the 2011 specific stuff, or the
stuff that has been true ever since Charles Babbage made his
difference engine over a century ago.

And for you ladies out there, yes I'm aware that Ada Lovelace actually did
all the hard work, *grin*.

Take care,
Sina






Take care,
Sina


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Well, I'm glad the language has held still over the years.  I'm stil a
novice in this language and I'm glad I don't have to be so worried
about my book or tutorial containing obselete code as I would be for
Java.  You can still take a c++ book written in 2004 or 2005 or
something like that and use it to learn with.  Unless I'm mistaken,
you can't do this with c# or Java.  I tried looking at Java a few
months back and kept finding all these books that seemed to have a
bunch of things you had to change with subsequent versions of Java.
So, I for one am glad too much change hasn't come too quickly to it.

Alex M

On 3/9/11, Sina Bahram<sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
Fine, seriously belated, delayed, and not as useful as it would have been
10
years ago.

Take car,e
Sina


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the
language

But it wasn't. This is a long time in coming, but it doesn't make it
useless.
On 3/9/2011 3:41 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
Wow, how many decades has it been?

Oh well, better later than never, or something, I'm sure.

Sorry, this is kind of useless.

This should have been done in 1999.

Take care,
Sina

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Subject: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
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http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x%20-%20An%20Overview.html

Fascinating video from the man himself.  Interesting to hear his
voice.  For those who don't know, Bjarne Stroustrup is the man who
invented c++.  The language was originally called c with classes but
then, he changed the name to c++ because in c, the ++ means
incremental addition.

Enjoy,

Alex M
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