lol... I am paranoid I guess... I use two - BlackIce, which has taken a bad rap on many tech lists - but I purchased it years ago when ZA was probably the only one out there besides BI. ZA didn't work well for me... BI works for me along with the freeware version of sygate, which I recommend to all my clients. if ZA works well for you and you are comfortable with it, keep it... but you might want to give sygate a spin... if client man is indeed some form of malware, your daughter may have picked it up thru a pop up window.... are you running some sort of pop up stopper as well? ~s ----- From: "cris" : Thank you! I'll do some reading!! : ok - so, maybe I need a new/different firewall. Back to that discussion. : Which do you use Suzanne? : I have the information posted earlier - To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk