Last night, my daughter called me to come in here. She kept getting a box popping up saying 'shit' can't connect. I checked and it wasn't listed in our pop up killer list as anything being opened. So - I ran spybot search and destroy. It found 'client man' I removed it - with several runs of spybot, one being on start up. I checked my spywareblaster, and it had been corrupted, so I needed to uninstall it, and re-install it. I tried to get information on client man - got some - I found out that it automatically sets zone alarm to allow. sure enough, it in zone alarm, with permission ! so now - I am assuming it is off of my system. Running a find files, only finds them in spybot. SHOULD I remove the entry for it in zone alarm? or should I leave it there but set to not allow? I know - some of you prefer other programs, but this is the one I've had on here for years, and I've never had a problem, and I understand it - pretty much!! <smile> and - with all of this, I found no reference to a pop up labeled 'shit'. altho it was an awful co-incidence if it isn't it. Client man was dated yesterday as coming onto my system. I haven't opened my daughter's screen name yet to be sure she no longer has this pop up. CrisS To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk