I went to download.com - and it sent me to the apple site - the options are: quickTime 6.5 with iTunes for Win200/xp quickTime 6.5 for win98/ME I hadn't tried Tucows - I just looked there and they had it! Thank you Soooooooooo much!!!! Cris ----- Original Message ----- From: Tori They are two entirely separate programs Chris. I'm sure you can download them separately. Did you try the Apple site? How about tucows or download.com? Tori -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/