Again, this is only a quick-thought system that I merely put together by going to a few sites and getting models and prices. When you're ready, I have no problem sitting down and giving you detailed info on what to get, with model numbers and approximate prices. I tend to find good price using http://shopping.yahoo.com. This is where I usually buy my stuff from. Like PriceWatch, the Yahoo Shopping is only a "mall" of shops, and finds you the lowest prices within these registered shops. Pricewatch sometimes can be a little too low priced. And, with that I mean that when you go to purchase a find there tends to be some small print. So, I usually only look to PriceWatch for the larger items. USB ports... as mentioned already, all the current motherboards have at least 2 ports for the back. But, if you want more ports, or firewire ports, then we seek out a mobo that has the extra ports for the front. My specific mother board on my main system sports the two ports in the back plus an additional two for the front, should I wish to connect it. Speakers... yep, forgot to add those. But, you can literally get cheap $5 speakers should you choose, as well as sometimes catch a "free-after-rebate" sale at the more popular chains. Of course, if you really want to take advantage of a good sound card with 5.1 surround, you need the better and more powerful speakers (translated as more $$$). Microsoft Office... I think you can find the standard version for quite cheap. Again, check Yahoo Shopping for that one. Your Costco might also have it for a good price. This also can be researched for the lowest price online. Extra stuff... like any system, there's a ton of "extra stuff" you can buy and attach. I used to have a readout panel that gave me the temperature of all my components, with an alarm in the event that a particular unit got too hot. And, this device fit into one of my 5.25 drive bays. But, it was nice to just look at my tower and see the temperature. I just removed that recently and replaced it with software that runs in the background. No need to see the actual temperature, I figured... the software was good enough to alert me of overheating. The Dell tower... I know with my old Gateway, when I purchased a new power supply it didn't fit in their proprietary case. So, yes, very possible the case won't do. You can always try it and if its no good you then buy a new one. ---Troth At 05:24 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Thank you for the great info! I could always buy a little bit at a time! >I had my son look at it - amazingly he was here for 5 minutes! He said a full >tower probably wouldn't fit in here - the mid would work? hmmmm - he may even >have the case from it laying in the basement - it was an old Dell - yep it's >there - old dimension XPS T550. It probably wouldn't work tho - without >cutting >it into pieces to put things like usb port up front!! LOL > >and we have the floppy drive from it too - old computer he bought from someone >for parts. And he said he has a cheap modem - I have speakers from this >computer >that could go back to this computer (for my daughter) and the speakers on here >would work. They weren't listed.. >I bought my XPHOME at Costco for under 100 bucks - like $89 if I recall >correctly. If I built, I might want to go with PRO... > >cons - yeah - I'd have to build it and that is a very ominous thought!! >And I'd >still need to buy a monitor - they're about 3-400 for the flat screens. >But - I >could just go with a basic one for now. And - I understand they have decent >re-built ones at the computer show. I have a wireless mouse now - optical. I >love the optical - but think I will go back to wires again when it dies or >I buy >new. It is so hungry all the time!! I spend a small fortune on batteries for >it!! >Is there a good place to buy a microsoft office package? or something with >Word? >I have works 2000 with word - which would be fine for now. But I'm just >curious. >I think all of my other software on here is either free or I purchased it and >could use it (all but Norton) on a 2nd system. > >what about the 'little stuff'? like the usb ports? Is that something separate? >switches and gizmo's?? >CrisS >----- Original Message ----- >From: ~OoO~ >To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:34 PM >Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - >unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx2 > > >$50 - Full Tower w/ 400 watt power supply >$125 - ASUS P4G8X motherboard (onboard >$244 - Intel P4, 2.8Ghz 533FSB (with fan) >$80 - 512 DDR memory >$15 - floppy drive >$219 - Sony DRU510a DVD-R/+R/-RW/+RW/CD-R/CD-RW combo drive >$100 - GeForce4 Ti 4200 128MB video card >$60 - wireless/optical keyboard/mouse combo >$100 - Windows XP Home Edition >$10 - cheap modem for emergencies >$100 - 160GB HD >$70 - Sound Blaster Audigy 5.1 PCI >------------ >$1173, w/o a monitor (I think I remembered everything). >Most of the prices I got from www.pricewatch.com. This is an approximate. I >would consider this a fairly good system, that would, in my opinion, way >out-perform the one you mentioned from Costco. Cons: you need to build it >yourself, and you'll probably be ordering from more than one company... unless >you go to a computer show with a list of the stuff you need to buy... in which >case we can sit down and give you a detailed list of what to buy, with model >numbers, and replacements if they don't have. > >---Troth To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk