-=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - un successfully! :VSMail mx3
- From: ~OoO~ <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:18:06 -0400
Yep... can't forget the tech support. For me, I no longer care for it. But,
its very important if you think you'll find yourself with problems that
can't be solved. But, support has gone down from what it used to be. Like
anything else, however, some have had goof experiences, while others bad.
My classic example is when I was new to the computer scene, with my
spankin' brand new Gateway, and I had a problem. Sunday night/Monday
morning, about 1:00am, I called Gateway and I was on the phone with them
for 6 hours straight troubleshooting. That was my good experience, cause it
showed the guy was really trying to be helpful. Turned out my new computer
was damaged and they replaced it for me.
---Troth
At 03:58 PM 9/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Cris,
>
>On the newer motherboards, there are generally 2 USB 2.0 ports on the back
>of the computer plus pins to attach another 4. These usually come 2 with
>your new mid-tower case and 2 with the motherboard. The 2 with the case
>will be on the front and 2 on the back. As Troth pointed out, the
>components he listed would definitely outperform the costco model you
>mentioned. One con he did not mention though - no tech support from the
>manufacturer. Of course the way tech support has gone with most of the
>major manufacturers lately that may not mean too much to you.
>
>James
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cris [mailto:cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:24 PM
>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC -
>unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx3
>
>
>Thank you for the great info! I could always buy a little bit at a time!
>I had my son look at it - amazingly he was here for 5 minutes! He said a
>full
>tower probably wouldn't fit in here - the mid would work? hmmmm - he may
>even
>have the case from it laying in the basement - it was an old Dell - yep it's
>there - old dimension XPS T550. It probably wouldn't work tho - without
>cutting
>it into pieces to put things like usb port up front!! LOL
>
>and we have the floppy drive from it too - old computer he bought from
>someone
>for parts. And he said he has a cheap modem - I have speakers from this
>computer
>that could go back to this computer (for my daughter) and the speakers on
>here
>would work. They weren't listed..
>I bought my XPHOME at Costco for under 100 bucks - like $89 if I recall
>correctly. If I built, I might want to go with PRO...
>
>cons - yeah - I'd have to build it and that is a very ominous thought!! And
>I'd
>still need to buy a monitor - they're about 3-400 for the flat screens. But
>- I
>could just go with a basic one for now. And - I understand they have decent
>re-built ones at the computer show. I have a wireless mouse now - optical. I
>love the optical - but think I will go back to wires again when it dies or I
>buy
>new. It is so hungry all the time!! I spend a small fortune on batteries for
>it!!
>Is there a good place to buy a microsoft office package? or something with
>Word?
>I have works 2000 with word - which would be fine for now. But I'm just
>curious.
>I think all of my other software on here is either free or I purchased it
>and
>could use it (all but Norton) on a 2nd system.
>
>what about the 'little stuff'? like the usb ports? Is that something
>separate?
>switches and gizmo's??
>CrisS
>----- Original Message -----
>From: ~OoO~
>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:34 PM
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC -
>unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx2
>
>
>$50 - Full Tower w/ 400 watt power supply
>$125 - ASUS P4G8X motherboard (onboard
>$244 - Intel P4, 2.8Ghz 533FSB (with fan)
>$80 - 512 DDR memory
>$15 - floppy drive
>$219 - Sony DRU510a DVD-R/+R/-RW/+RW/CD-R/CD-RW combo drive
>$100 - GeForce4 Ti 4200 128MB video card
>$60 - wireless/optical keyboard/mouse combo
>$100 - Windows XP Home Edition
>$10 - cheap modem for emergencies
>$100 - 160GB HD
>$70 - Sound Blaster Audigy 5.1 PCI
>------------
>$1173, w/o a monitor (I think I remembered everything).
>Most of the prices I got from www.pricewatch.com. This is an approximate. I
>would consider this a fairly good system, that would, in my opinion, way
>out-perform the one you mentioned from Costco. Cons: you need to build it
>yourself, and you'll probably be ordering from more than one company...
>unless
>you go to a computer show with a list of the stuff you need to buy... in
>which
>case we can sit down and give you a detailed list of what to buy, with model
>numbers, and replacements if they don't have.
>
>---Troth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cris
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:59 PM
> Subject: [Spam] -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC -
>unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx2
>
>
> LOL
> In this instance - I haven't written back yet with how good of a system I
>want!
> Of course, I would liike a really good system. Being realistic? I'm not so
>sure.
> I want at least a 120 gb hard drive. And enough ram to keep it running
>without
> any questions.
> I would like amenities - dvd burner would be awesome! but - I don't have a
>dvd
> player - but would like to plan for the future. Definitely a cd burner
>(and my
> floppy drive! <smile> )
>
> what the medion had at Costco was:
> Intel pentium 4
> 2.8 ghz
> 512 ddr333
> 120 mg hard drive
> 64 mb nividia video card
> 64MB NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 video card
> eithernet 10/
> bunch of ports on the front
> I'm pretty sure it was a DVD burner (not positive on the burner) and a Cd
>Burner
> also plus the floppy drive.
> I've NO clue about software....
> It's priced at $1299.00 now - includes a flat screen monitor -
> and it has a bunch of places to put in cards from different digital
>cameras -
> just not the one I own!! LOL
>
> so -
> Before, the concensus was, it would be difficult to build this system for
>that
> price. Actually - this is 100 less than it was before when I looked at it.
> it was $1399.00 then...
>
> Cris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James LaBorde
> To: 'pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:44 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
>:VSMail
> mx2
>
>
> Was there ever a resolution to this problem? I had a friend facing a
> similar problem not long ago and I had no idea what to tell him. Maybe I
> can help him out if there were any resolution here.
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ~OoO~ [mailto:SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:18 AM
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
> :VSMail mx2
>
>
> How "good" of a system you're looking into?
> ---Troth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cris
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:44 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
>
>
> Ok !!
> I'm lining everybody up to tell me what to buy and where to buy it and
>how
> to
> build one!!
>
> The guy trying to talk me into it did say that the hardest thing is (and
> most
> expensive) getting the
> software and getting it on and running.
> CrisS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andy
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:19 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Foxhillers@xxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > In a message dated 9/14/03 12:05:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > >
> > > I have a friend trying to talk me into building my own computer.
> > > I laughed at him!!!
> > > I really hope you get it going - I am envious of the knowlege
> > > to be able to do this!
> > >
> >
> > CrisS
> > Actually, some bundled systems at the major stores are such a
>bargain
> that
> > you will save much money buying these..... and avoid the potential
> headaches
> > of hardware and software installation.
> > Been there, done that
> > mjh
>
> I find this to be true if you are not looking for anything spectacular
> from
> the spec, but it's still a lot cheaper to put together a higher specced
> machine yourself AND you get to choose the components that suit you, not
> the
> maker.
>
> As for the difficulty in doing it yourself? Speaking as someone with
> hooves
> for hands, it's one of the easiest 'technical' things you can do. If you
> can
> use a screwdriver, you can do it.
>
> Andy
>
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