-=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx3
- From: James LaBorde <jlaborde@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:58:56 -0700
Cris,
On the newer motherboards, there are generally 2 USB 2.0 ports on the back
of the computer plus pins to attach another 4. These usually come 2 with
your new mid-tower case and 2 with the motherboard. The 2 with the case
will be on the front and 2 on the back. As Troth pointed out, the
components he listed would definitely outperform the costco model you
mentioned. One con he did not mention though - no tech support from the
manufacturer. Of course the way tech support has gone with most of the
major manufacturers lately that may not mean too much to you.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: cris [mailto:cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:24 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC -
unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx3
Thank you for the great info! I could always buy a little bit at a time!
I had my son look at it - amazingly he was here for 5 minutes! He said a
full
tower probably wouldn't fit in here - the mid would work? hmmmm - he may
even
have the case from it laying in the basement - it was an old Dell - yep it's
there - old dimension XPS T550. It probably wouldn't work tho - without
cutting
it into pieces to put things like usb port up front!! LOL
and we have the floppy drive from it too - old computer he bought from
someone
for parts. And he said he has a cheap modem - I have speakers from this
computer
that could go back to this computer (for my daughter) and the speakers on
here
would work. They weren't listed..
I bought my XPHOME at Costco for under 100 bucks - like $89 if I recall
correctly. If I built, I might want to go with PRO...
cons - yeah - I'd have to build it and that is a very ominous thought!! And
I'd
still need to buy a monitor - they're about 3-400 for the flat screens. But
- I
could just go with a basic one for now. And - I understand they have decent
re-built ones at the computer show. I have a wireless mouse now - optical. I
love the optical - but think I will go back to wires again when it dies or I
buy
new. It is so hungry all the time!! I spend a small fortune on batteries for
it!!
Is there a good place to buy a microsoft office package? or something with
Word?
I have works 2000 with word - which would be fine for now. But I'm just
curious.
I think all of my other software on here is either free or I purchased it
and
could use it (all but Norton) on a 2nd system.
what about the 'little stuff'? like the usb ports? Is that something
separate?
switches and gizmo's??
CrisS
----- Original Message -----
From: ~OoO~
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Spam] Re: Trying to building a P4 PC -
unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx2
$50 - Full Tower w/ 400 watt power supply
$125 - ASUS P4G8X motherboard (onboard
$244 - Intel P4, 2.8Ghz 533FSB (with fan)
$80 - 512 DDR memory
$15 - floppy drive
$219 - Sony DRU510a DVD-R/+R/-RW/+RW/CD-R/CD-RW combo drive
$100 - GeForce4 Ti 4200 128MB video card
$60 - wireless/optical keyboard/mouse combo
$100 - Windows XP Home Edition
$10 - cheap modem for emergencies
$100 - 160GB HD
$70 - Sound Blaster Audigy 5.1 PCI
------------
$1173, w/o a monitor (I think I remembered everything).
Most of the prices I got from www.pricewatch.com. This is an approximate. I
would consider this a fairly good system, that would, in my opinion, way
out-perform the one you mentioned from Costco. Cons: you need to build it
yourself, and you'll probably be ordering from more than one company...
unless
you go to a computer show with a list of the stuff you need to buy... in
which
case we can sit down and give you a detailed list of what to buy, with model
numbers, and replacements if they don't have.
---Troth
----- Original Message -----
From: cris
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: [Spam] -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC -
unsuccessfully! :VSMail mx2
LOL
In this instance - I haven't written back yet with how good of a system I
want!
Of course, I would liike a really good system. Being realistic? I'm not so
sure.
I want at least a 120 gb hard drive. And enough ram to keep it running
without
any questions.
I would like amenities - dvd burner would be awesome! but - I don't have a
dvd
player - but would like to plan for the future. Definitely a cd burner
(and my
floppy drive! <smile> )
what the medion had at Costco was:
Intel pentium 4
2.8 ghz
512 ddr333
120 mg hard drive
64 mb nividia video card
64MB NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 video card
eithernet 10/
bunch of ports on the front
I'm pretty sure it was a DVD burner (not positive on the burner) and a Cd
Burner
also plus the floppy drive.
I've NO clue about software....
It's priced at $1299.00 now - includes a flat screen monitor -
and it has a bunch of places to put in cards from different digital
cameras -
just not the one I own!! LOL
so -
Before, the concensus was, it would be difficult to build this system for
that
price. Actually - this is 100 less than it was before when I looked at it.
it was $1399.00 then...
Cris
----- Original Message -----
From: James LaBorde
To: 'pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
:VSMail
mx2
Was there ever a resolution to this problem? I had a friend facing a
similar problem not long ago and I had no idea what to tell him. Maybe I
can help him out if there were any resolution here.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: ~OoO~ [mailto:SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:18 AM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
:VSMail mx2
How "good" of a system you're looking into?
---Troth
----- Original Message -----
From: cris
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
Ok !!
I'm lining everybody up to tell me what to buy and where to buy it and
how
to
build one!!
The guy trying to talk me into it did say that the hardest thing is (and
most
expensive) getting the
software and getting it on and running.
CrisS
----- Original Message -----
From: andy
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:19 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Trying to building a P4 PC - unsuccessfully!
----- Original Message -----
From: <Foxhillers@xxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> In a message dated 9/14/03 12:05:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> >
> > I have a friend trying to talk me into building my own computer.
> > I laughed at him!!!
> > I really hope you get it going - I am envious of the knowlege
> > to be able to do this!
> >
>
> CrisS
> Actually, some bundled systems at the major stores are such a
bargain
that
> you will save much money buying these..... and avoid the potential
headaches
> of hardware and software installation.
> Been there, done that
> mjh
I find this to be true if you are not looking for anything spectacular
from
the spec, but it's still a lot cheaper to put together a higher specced
machine yourself AND you get to choose the components that suit you, not
the
maker.
As for the difficulty in doing it yourself? Speaking as someone with
hooves
for hands, it's one of the easiest 'technical' things you can do. If you
can
use a screwdriver, you can do it.
Andy
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