Hi Gerald, Thursday, June 15, 2006, 5:52:09 PM, you wrote: GG> I do not have heavy duty PC work. I saw an ad on Yahoo for the GG> above subject PC, and I visited the Dell website. It is something GG> within my price range. I am wondering if Dell ships an empty box GG> with separte components that have to be installed by the user. GG> Please take a look at this link. I do not know if this is what is GG> factory installed or user installed: http://tinyurl.com/fnnco $299 is for: Intel Celery 2.53 GHz CPU w/ 533Mhz FSB Windows XP Home SP2 17" CRT 256MB DDR400 SDRAM (but it's only running at 333 Mhz, not 400) (32 to 64 MB of this are used for on-board video) 80 GB HD 48X CD-RW combo (meaning it can read DVDs but not write them) keyboard 2-button scroll mouse w/ball (not optical) Wordperfect QuickBooks trial one-year on-site support Motherboard: 6 USB 2.0 ports 1 serial port 1 parallel port 1 PS/2 mouse port 1 PS/2 keyboard port 10/100 network port 3 PCI slots I'd recommend paying the extra $10 for the reinstallation CD. I'd strongly recommend 512 MB memory. (they charge an extra $50 for the extra 256 MB). You can get good-quality 256MB online for $20 plus tax & shipping, but there's a possibility that it may not work well with the memory that you have already. If you do video, you may want a bigger hard drive; they charge an extra $50 for a 160GB. I'd recommend a DVD writer; they want an extra $40 for that. They want $30 for a floppy drive; you can buy USB floppy drives for $20 + S&H, and they have the advantage that they can be used on other computers. You can definitely get USB memory "keys" cheaper elsewhere online. They want $29 for a 128 MB, and you can buy a high-quality 512 MB (4 times bigger) elsewhere for $15 + S&H. They want $59 for a 512 MB. I kinda suspect that they use the word "key" to make people think that it's needed. If you need a modem, that's an extra $20. If you have a PCI modem in the old computer, you can move it over. You will need to provide the anti-virus, anti-spyware, and firewall. It does NOT come with speakers unless you ask for them or they make a booboo. I recommend removing trial software immediately, before you do anything else. If you try to use it, it will install fully. You should also uninstall Acrobat Reader 6 before using it; it's an obsolete version and has been so for over a year now; the current version is 7.0.8, which just came out last week. You may need to upgrade other software as well; you should update Windows the very first thing before doing anything else online, and upgrade any other software immediately after that. On-site service is in their judgement and at their convenience. In other words, don't expect it to happen unless you can convince them that you're dangerous with a screwdriver. Try coupon sites such as www.couponmountain.com to see if you can get it even cheaper; note that you generally can't combine coupon codes with other offers. The $50 instant savings will probably count as "other offers". The computer described above is almost certainly an old one; they're probably trying to clear out old stock. It probably does not support Serial ATA (SATA) and almost certainly does not have any PCI-Express. Many/most new models do not have a serial port or parallel port. They don't say anything (that I noticed) about the motherboard, but since they are using a Celeron CPU, the motherboard almost certainly has an SIS chipset, which has a reputation for being on the slow side. You will not need to open the case when you get it, unless you're adding something that they didn't provide or you just want to see what it looks like. Any internal stuff that you buy comes properly installed. All of them nickels and dimes will nickel and dime you to death, as the saying goes. -- Scott. -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.