[O Velho News] Re: VNC
- From: Gilgamesh <gilgao@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ovelho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:10:48 -0300
Eu estou fazendo uns testes, e a solução é muito boa. Já estou usando o
Remote Desktop Web, mas para outras tarefas que não demonstrar o sistema.
Tentei criar uma conexao como voce disse, mas ele nao deixou dizendo que
precisa de um identificador unico. Mas depois eu vou tentar novamente,
estou tendo uns outros problemas no servidor.
Muito obrigado pela ajuda!
Diogo Miranda wrote:
>Aqui o que eu consegui achar, nao deu para testar por que as mudancas
>afetariam todos os meus clientes.
>Usei o Windwos 2000 Server, fui em Terminal Services Configuration e na
>opcao use temporary folder per session poe false. Esta opcao fica em
>Server settings.
>Clica em connections e la voce pode falar que o remote control
>acontecera sem a autorizacao, assim os usuarions nao vao clicar em nada.
>Ai voce fala para todo mundo logar com o mesmo usuario, e todos estarao
>na mesma secao, voce vai la e controla a secao e faz uma palestra ou
>qualquer coisa do genero.
>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On Behalf Of Gilgamesh
>Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:34 PM
>To: ovelho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [O Velho News] Re: VNC
>
>O remote desktop web =E9 uma boa alternativa, mas como eu fa=E7o para os =
>
>usu=E1rios acessarem a mesma sess=E3o?
>E =E9 necess=E1rio que o usu=E1rio apenas visualize a tela. Ele n=E3o =
>pode mexer
>
>em nada. =C9 poss=EDvel isso tamb=E9m?
>
>
>Diogo Miranda wrote:
>
>
>
>>Terminal Services
>>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/t
>>
>>
>s
>
>
>>ac.asp
>>
>>Remote Desktop
>>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/rdwebconn.asp
>>
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>> ' `-`' " "
>>!****************************************!
>>! Diogo Miranda !
>>! http://www.diogomiranda.com !
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>>! W.A.R.P.: We Are Real Programmers. !
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Gilgamesh
>>Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:21 PM
>>To: ovelho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [O Velho News] Re: VNC
>>
>>Web Client pra remote desktop? onde?
>>
>>
>>
>>Diogo Miranda wrote:
>>
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>Voce pode se conectar a mesma secao, porem o usuario teria que apertar
>>>ok. E tambem existe um web client para o mesmo.=3D3D20
>>>Em relacao ao ip voce poderia falar que o final 200 seria usado apenas
>>>para esta tarefa, ai sempre que vc precisar fazer isso voce rodava um
>>>script que trocava o ip da maquina.
>>>
>>>
>>> __ __
>>> / \ /| |'-.
>>> .\__/ || | |
>>> _ / `._ \|_|_.-'
>>> | / \__.`=3D3D3D._) (_
>>> |/ ._/ |"""""""""|
>>> |'. `\ | |
>>> ;"""/ / | |
>>> ) /_/| |.-------.|
>>> ' `-`' " "
>>>!****************************************!
>>>! Diogo Miranda !
>>>! http://www.diogomiranda.com !
>>>!****************************************!
>>>! 'C++' should have been called 'D' !
>>>!****************************************!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>On Behalf Of Gilgamesh
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:48 PM
>>>To: ovelho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [O Velho News] Re: VNC
>>>
>>>N=3D3DE3o =3D3DE9 poss=3D3DEDvel usar discagem, pq isso tudo =
>>>
>>>
>ser=3D3DE1 usado
>=3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>para
>>fazer =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>demonstra=3D3DE7=3D3DF5es. ent=3D3DE3o v=3D3DE1rios clientes v=3D3DE3o =
>>>
>>>
>conectar
>=3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>ao mesmo =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>tempo.
>>>Eles precisam visualizar o que uma pessoa daqui est=3D3DE1 fazendo na
>>>
>>>
>=3D3D
>
>
>>>m=3D3DE1quina,
>>>
>>>como uma aula.
>>>
>>>O remote desktop cria uma se=3D3DE7=3D3DE3o s=3D3DF3 pro usu=3D3DE1rio =
>>>
>>>
>que =3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>conecta, =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>ent=3D3DE3o n=3D3DE3o=3D3D20
>>>pode tb, pq ele n=3D3DE3o enxergaria a minha se=3D3DE7=3D3DE3o.
>>>
>>>Os clientes s=3D3DE3o da esp=3D3DE9cio "usu=3D3DE1rio leigo", aquela =
>>>
>>>
>que =3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>d=3D3DE1 mais
>>=3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>problema,
>>>
>>>sabem? ;)
>>>Normalmente vao usar Windows., e n=3D3DE3o sabem o que =3D3DE9 uma
>>>
>>>
>"porta", =3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>ou
>>=3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>onde=3D3D20
>>>baixar um programa.
>>>
>>>O VNC tem a vantagem de possuir um servidor web integrado. Quando
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>alguem
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>conecta a ele, automaticamente =3D3DE9 feito o download do applet java
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>pra=3D3D20
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>visualiza=3D3DE7=3D3DE3o.
>>>
>>>Eu estou pensando em usar um port-forward mesmo. Preciso que a
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>"escuta"=3D3D20
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>seja feita na porta 80, pq muitos clientes est=3D3DE3o em empresas =3D
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>que=3D3D20
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>bloqueiam o acesso a outras portas.
>>>O problema do port-forward =3D3DE9 que ele seria configurado pra dar
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>forward =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>=3D3DE0
>>>
>>>um ip espec=3D3DEDfico, mas a demonstra=3D3DE7=3D3DE3o pode ser feita =
>>>
>>>
>em =3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>qualquer =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>m=3D3DE1quina,
>>>
>>>implicando que a cada vez que a demonstra=3D3DE7=3D3DE3o for feita, =
>>>
>>>
>=3D
>
>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>teria-se
>>que =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>configurar o port-forward novamente.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Lucio Feitoza wrote:
>>>
>>>se o problema for instalar programas e o cliente possuir windows, voce
>>>pode
>>>usar o proprio netmeeting que =3D3DE9 gratuito para quem possui =
>>>
>>>
>windows.
>
>
>>>Com o netmeeting tambem =3D3DE9 possivel acessar diretamente, sem =3D
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>precisar
>>=3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>de
>>>um
>>>terceiro computador, o gateway. Mas nesse caso a maquina a ser
>>>controlada
>>>teria que discar para o seu cliente, ou seja teria que ter alguem na
>>>maquina.
>>>
>>>
>>>Diogo Miranda wrote:
>>>
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sem precisar instalar nada a primeira coisa que vem em mente seria.
>>>>Cliente com Windows Xp, e a sua maquina interna com Terminal Services
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>ou
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Remote Desktop. O XP ja vem com o cliente, mas voce tem que
>>>>
>>>>
>configurar
>
>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>a
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>conexao.
>>>>Quanto ao servidor, se vc tiver um ip publico vago pode usa-lo, ou se
>>>>estiver utilizando nat voce vai ter que dar forward na porta 3389
>>>>
>>>>
>para
>
>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>a
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>sua maquina interna.
>>>>
>>>>Acho que voce deveria falar o OS de cada uma das maquina envolvida
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>para
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>>podermos dar uma opniao melhor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __ __
>>>> / \ /| |'-.
>>>> .\__/ || | |
>>>> _ / `._ \|_|_.-'
>>>> | / \__.`=3D3D3D3D._) (_
>>>> |/ ._/ |"""""""""|
>>>> |'. `\ | |
>>>> ;"""/ / | |
>>>> ) /_/| |.-------.|
>>>> ' `-`' " "
>>>>!****************************************!
>>>>! Diogo Miranda !
>>>>! http://www.diogomiranda.com !
>>>>!****************************************!
>>>>! 'C++' should have been called 'D' !
>>>>!****************************************!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>[mailto:ovelho-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>
>>>>On Behalf Of Gilgamesh
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:39 PM
>>>>To: Conselho Intergal=3D3D3DE1tico
>>>>Subject: [O Velho News] VNC
>>>>
>>>>Ol=3D3D3DE1 senhores (e senhoritas, por que n=3D3D3DE3o?)
>>>>
>>>>O neg=3D3D3DF3cio =3D3D3DE9 o seguinte:
>>>>Tenho uma m=3D3D3DE1quina aqui na intranet, a qual eu preciso que um
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>cliente=3D3D3D20
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>externo possa visualizar seu desktop, tal qual o vnc faz.
>>>>O problema =3D3D3DE9 que a m=3D3D3DE1quina est=3D3D3DE1 na intranet e =
>>>>
>>>>
>o =3D
>
>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>cliente =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>t=3D3D3DE1
>>>fora.
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uma solu=3D3D3DE7=3D3D3DE3o seria utilizar uma esp=3D3D3DE9cie de =
>>>>
>>>>
>ponte num
>=3D
>
>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>dos =3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>nossos=3D3D3D20
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>servidores externos. A maquina daqui se conectaria ao servidor, e =
>>>>
>>>>
>=3D3D
>
>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>o=3D3D3D20
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>cliente tamb=3D3D3DE9m, sendo que o servidor s=3D3D3DF3 serviria =
>>>>
>>>>
>=3D3D
>
>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>(trocadilho=3D3D3D20
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>n=3D3D3DE3o-intencional) pra repassar os dados para o cliente.
>>>>
>>>>Tem como?
>>>>
>>>>O ideal seria se o cliente n=3D3D3DE3o precisasse instalar nada, que
>>>>
>>>>
>nem =3D
>
>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>=3D3D
>>=20
>>
>>
>>
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>=3D3D3D
>>>=3D20
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>quando=3D3D3D20
>>>>ele conecta a um servidor vnc pela interface web, quando a =3D3D3D
>>>>visualiza=3D3D3DE7=3D3D3DE3o=3D3D3D20
>>>>=3D3D3DE9 feita atrav=3D3D3DE9s de um applet java.
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