Re: looks like some web developers are getting back into 4GL environment...
- From: ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: tomday2@xxxxxxxxx, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:56:57 +0000
your jumping to conclusions based on what some people say is the correct way to
use it. You don't have to use it the way people who write articles say you
should. They are not going to come to your house with a club and beat you if
you design your database properly.
What language you code in and what framework you use is independent of how you
design. Good design is good design. The language or environment is the
implementation. Java people aren't bad database people because of java. Its
their own fault. Java has nothing to do with it.
If you don't want to look into it then don't. From what I have seen its closer
to developing in Oracle Forms than in a 3GL. People who used forms did not
always have complete control over the schema. Keep in mind that many(if not
most) authors on the web will make broad statements without actually testing or
using something. If a java guy does not know anything about a database and says
you have to have complete control of the schema... does what they say have any
merit? So just because someone says that you have to do this or that does not
make it accurate.
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> I shudder for the future -
>
> "It's really only practical in cases where you have complete control
> over the database schema..."
>
> Sorry, I've seen too many cases where Java developers decided to be
> their own DBA/Data Architect.
>
> It may be perfect for stand-alone, stovepipe, localized reporting
> where they want it "pretty...pretty" on the web. But they won't leave
> well enough alone. Shortly (not sooner or later but, rather, sooner),
> someone will want to do an enterprise-wide app using this. Hopefully
> the resulting mess will kill this idea dead.
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