Another comment worth making: when <log file sync> is a dominant response time contributor, it can be because of CPU starvation as well. (By "CPU starvation", I mean too much CPU workload for the CPU capacity you have. ...Such as what happens when several CPU-intensive queries run concurrently.) A <log file sync> is basically the time between the committing process's posting a message to LGWR and then getting the response back. In between those two events, these things have to happen: A. LGWR has to be scheduled and begin executing its code path, B. ...which of course includes the flush of the buffer. C. Then the committing process has to be scheduled and returned to its code path, where it can issue an OS timer call to see how long the <log file sync> event took. Most people who see <log file sync> automatically jump to the conclusion that the problem is B. ...It's always disk for some people, even when it's really not. But on a system that's CPU starved, A and C can be the dominant time consumers. Step A is also a dominant time consumer on systems where people (DO NOT DO THIS!!!) renice their LGWR process to have a diminished slot in the OS scheduler's pecking order. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Nullius in verba Hotsos Symposium 2007 / March 4-8 / Dallas Visit www.hotsos.com for curriculum and schedule details... -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Closson Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:05 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: log writer tuning usually it is "log file sync" (especially while log switch is performed), which is quite high, however as it is visible in excerpt below, log file sync is almost the same as log file parallel write. So I am not sure if log_buffer change will have any impact on log writer performance - may be it would if we set log_buffer size somewhere between 1,5M and 0,5M, when some commits would be written down during background initiated writes, but we have big number of small commits, so it is possible that most of log writes are forced by those small ...Jaffar, you are right. Having a large redo buffer only accomodates more piggy-back commit action, it will not somehow make lgwr wait to do more "efficient" flushes. Quotes on purpose. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l