>>>In fact, the reason for my original post was that I had seen >>>the marketing presentation, and we had an Oracle customer >>>engineer coming in to do an additional presentation to >>>management. I sprung some of the stuff we've been >>>discussing here, and got him to back off and say: >>> >>>In 99.5% of all cases, you can upgrade without downtime. 99.5% of all Critical Patch Updates are total planned outages is more like it. Oracle field tried to use the fictional "rooling upgrade" as a smoking gun for not using a shared Oracle Home...this in spite of the fact that Tru64 and Sequent customers had been doing it for eons... -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l