RE: URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?

  • From: "Allen, Brandon" <Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <Thomas.Mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:42:26 -0700

I've never had any problems with OPTIMAL (not optimum) in 8.1.7.4 (on HP - not 
sure about Solaris).  Keep in mind that OPTIMAL only shrinks the RBS when a 
subsequent transaction causes inspection of the extended RBS again - it doesn't 
"snap" back to it's optimal size as soon as a long transaction completes - here 
is a description from the 9i doc:
 
When you create or alter a rollback segment, you can use the storage parameter 
OPTIMAL (which applies only to rollback segments) to specify the optimal size 
of the segment in bytes. If a transaction needs to continue writing rollback 
information from one extent to another extent in the rollback segment, Oracle 
compares the current size of the rollback segment to the segment's optimal 
size. If the rollback segment is larger than its optimal size, and if the 
extents immediately following the extent just filled are inactive, then Oracle 
deallocates consecutive nonactive extents from the rollback segment until the 
total size of the rollback segment is equal to or close to, but not less than, 
its optimal size. Oracle always frees the oldest inactive extents, as these are 
the least likely to be used by consistent reads.
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR)
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Chirag DBA
Cc: jhenslee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: RE: URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?



Optimum doesn't work too well in 8.1.7.4 (like not at all)

 

Shrinking them by hand is certainly not the long-term answer.  Re-writing the 
offending sql is the long-term answer.

 


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From: Chirag DBA [mailto:chiragdba@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:16 PM
To: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR)
Cc: jhenslee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: Re: URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?

 

Try setting the OPTIMUM parameter, which will reduce the size of yr segment 
after finishing the transaction. That can help you to get through.

 

But if the transactions are long, they can generate 1555 erros in yr trace 
files.

 

Look for this too.

 

Regards - Chirag 

 

On 9/6/05, Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) < Thomas.Mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote: 

Jeff,

Have you shrunk the existing rollback segments?  You may have some that
are huge in size.  You can shrink them and this will free up space in 
the RBS tablespace.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  <mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
] On Behalf Of Henslee, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:55 PM
To: Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?

We seem to be having troubles with some of our RBS segments.  We are 
unable to create new segments or extend existing ones.  This is an
unusual pattern and we're trying to find a way to get people back
working again without having to add a datafile to the RBS area (if at
all possible) or restart the instance. 

Options please?

Thank you.

Jeffrey C. Henslee (Chico)
Six Sigma Green Belt
Wausau Window and Wall Systems
(715) 846-3196
mailto: jhenslee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  <mailto:jhenslee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

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