Couldn't agree more -smd > Just say 'NO'. These tools are good for what they were designed for: > Allowing SAP Basis Admins to do DBA tasks when they are not really > comfortable with many DBA tasks. > > For an experienced DBA they are a large PITA, at least SAPDBA is. > > Something else to watch out for are their 'Early Watch' reports. Those > for the database are designed to help you 'optimize' your database. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l